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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFoot
    wrote on last edited by
    #586

    GunMetalGrey said:

    There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

    Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

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    I didn't build it and the shop "doesn't recall" what they did with the nut.

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
      wrote on last edited by
      #587

      Something is out of place with how that was done. Breaking shafts is no good no matter how you slice it! 

      Pun intended

      ...

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
        wrote on last edited by
        #588

        Some more carnage pics. The hole on the nut doesn't go all the way through.

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          B C
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          #589

          I am no expert,

          but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

          My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off.

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          • patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1
            wrote on last edited by
            #590

            Snap said:

            I am no expert,

            but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

            My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off. 

            Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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              #591

              patsbimmer1 said:

              Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

              no, but im sure my bed is just as uncomfortable.

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
                wrote on last edited by
                #592

                No dice on the GSR pump.

                6u8yvume.jpg

                I think I will get a replacement for the pump I already have and weld that nut.

                With the savings I will more than likely get the harmonic dampener to try to calm down that engine and prevent anything else from rattling/snapping loose.

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                • patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #593

                  If you ain't breakin' parts, you ain't makin' nuff powa!

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                  BMWCCA #473306

                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #594

                    If you ain't mixin' gas, you ain't hauling ass.

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                    You should see my weed whacker whack weeds.

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
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                      #595

                      #6 bottom rod bearing. Looks good to me!

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #596

                        Talk about a bearing relief

                        hawhawhawhaw

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                        • DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFoot
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #597

                          Snap said:

                          Talk about a bearing relief

                          hawhawhawhaw

                          Gonna get 100% confirmation from my machinist right now.

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #598

                            http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Upgraded-Oil-Pump-New-BMW-M-p/11-am-uopn.htm

                            I just ordered this along with their oil pan baffle. 

                            I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  While I was turning over the motor to pull the #6 rod bearing I noticed the bolt loosening while the crank was staying in the same place.  I'm glad I found this before it broke again.

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                                 @DrLeadFoot

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                            • DrLeadFootD
                              DrLeadFootD
                              DrLeadFoot
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #599

                              I'm also going to check all of my rod bearings for wear. Boris with the 8 second independent rear suspension e30 talked me into it.

                              He said the ARP bolts need to be torqued to 43ft/lbs with the ARP torque lube. That's better than doing the 25ft/lbs then turned an additional 55 degrees that K1 told me to do.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #600

                                I have  mine torqued up around 70 ft-lb per VAC Motorsports' instructions. They appear to be for both 12v and 24v engines. I can scan them if you would like.

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #601

                                  Snap said:

                                  I have  mine torqued up around 70 ft-lb per VAC Motorsports' instructions. They appear to be for both 12v and 24v engines. I can scan them if you would like.

                                  p

                                  Yes please.

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                                       @DrLeadFoot

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    #602

                                    DrLeadFoot said:

                                    I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  . 

                                    ju3ugy5y.jpg

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                                    • B
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                                      B C
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #603

                                      Did you call ARP yet? I hope you did. I went out of my way to give you their number

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #604

                                        Snap said:

                                        Did you call ARP yet? I hope you did. I went out of my way to give you their number

                                        I will today as well as pick up my parts from Concours.

                                        It's been a little nuts these past 72 hours with work. ;) more info to come later.

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                                             @DrLeadFoot

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #605

                                          Oil pan gasket.

                                          Jesus bolt and his ring.

                                          More parts to come!

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                                               @DrLeadFoot

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