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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
    wrote on last edited by
    #587

    Something is out of place with how that was done. Breaking shafts is no good no matter how you slice it! 

    Pun intended

    ...

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    • DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFoot
      wrote on last edited by
      #588

      Some more carnage pics. The hole on the nut doesn't go all the way through.

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      • B
        B
        B C
        wrote on last edited by
        #589

        I am no expert,

        but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

        My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off.

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
          #590

          Snap said:

          I am no expert,

          but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

          My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off. 

          Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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          • B
            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #591

            patsbimmer1 said:

            Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

            no, but im sure my bed is just as uncomfortable.

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #592

              No dice on the GSR pump.

              6u8yvume.jpg

              I think I will get a replacement for the pump I already have and weld that nut.

              With the savings I will more than likely get the harmonic dampener to try to calm down that engine and prevent anything else from rattling/snapping loose.

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
                wrote on last edited by
                #593

                If you ain't breakin' parts, you ain't makin' nuff powa!

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                BMWCCA #473306

                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRolls
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #594

                  If you ain't mixin' gas, you ain't hauling ass.

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                  You should see my weed whacker whack weeds.

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #595

                    #6 bottom rod bearing. Looks good to me!

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #596

                      Talk about a bearing relief

                      hawhawhawhaw

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                      • DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFoot
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #597

                        Snap said:

                        Talk about a bearing relief

                        hawhawhawhaw

                        Gonna get 100% confirmation from my machinist right now.

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                        • DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFoot
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #598

                          http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Upgraded-Oil-Pump-New-BMW-M-p/11-am-uopn.htm

                          I just ordered this along with their oil pan baffle. 

                          I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  While I was turning over the motor to pull the #6 rod bearing I noticed the bolt loosening while the crank was staying in the same place.  I'm glad I found this before it broke again.

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #599

                            I'm also going to check all of my rod bearings for wear. Boris with the 8 second independent rear suspension e30 talked me into it.

                            He said the ARP bolts need to be torqued to 43ft/lbs with the ARP torque lube. That's better than doing the 25ft/lbs then turned an additional 55 degrees that K1 told me to do.

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                              B C
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #600

                              I have  mine torqued up around 70 ft-lb per VAC Motorsports' instructions. They appear to be for both 12v and 24v engines. I can scan them if you would like.

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                              • DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFoot
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #601

                                Snap said:

                                I have  mine torqued up around 70 ft-lb per VAC Motorsports' instructions. They appear to be for both 12v and 24v engines. I can scan them if you would like.

                                p

                                Yes please.

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                                     @DrLeadFoot

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #602

                                  DrLeadFoot said:

                                  I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  . 

                                  ju3ugy5y.jpg

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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    B C
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #603

                                    Did you call ARP yet? I hope you did. I went out of my way to give you their number

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #604

                                      Snap said:

                                      Did you call ARP yet? I hope you did. I went out of my way to give you their number

                                      I will today as well as pick up my parts from Concours.

                                      It's been a little nuts these past 72 hours with work. ;) more info to come later.

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #605

                                        Oil pan gasket.

                                        Jesus bolt and his ring.

                                        More parts to come!

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                                             @DrLeadFoot

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #606

                                          Parts have arrived!

                                          I'm going get new ARP rod bolts and mic them before install so if I need to pull them again I can be 100% sure if I can reuse them or not.

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