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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFoot
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    #1090

    wasnt m3 said:

    Did you retorque the head studs after a few heat cycles on the engine?

    I didn't.

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    • wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3
      wrote on last edited by
      #1091

      I forget the exact time that should be done, but I think they're supposed to be re torqued around 500 miles.

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
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        #1092

        Wasn't aware of that...oops

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        • GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGrey
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          #1093

          ARP doesn't mention anything about a retorque, its actually in their FAQ's saying that you shouldn't need to. Not that it is a horrible idea, but its a heck of a lot of work on these motors. Standard sockets don't fit between the cam trays and head, and getting the VC off is no fun ;)
          Sucks that it failed, but luckily its not a hard job!

          ...

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
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            #1094

            So not coming to Concours Saturday now?

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #1095

              I'll be e46in'. Don't get sunburn from that engine light.

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                   @DrLeadFoot

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              • R
                R
                Rowleym
                wrote on last edited by
                #1096

                I gotta wonder why you wouldn't go with a cut ring gasket or o rings? And do you have any logs? Did you ever get rid of that richness? 

                I would definitely borrow a nice caliper and measure if those bad boys stretched. I'm kind of excited to see what the pistons look like.

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                sk8 or die

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                • patsbimmer1P
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                  patsbimmer1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1097

                  From what I can see there is no need to re-tighten the head bolts on the engine.  Not according to the replacement and torque procedure at least.

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
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                    #1098

                    There is hardly any room between the 87mm cylinders. Not sure if I can o-ring it

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
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                      #1099

                      I'm still running rich. It drops into the 10s at 4-6k

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                      • R
                        R
                        Rowleym
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1100

                        http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                        They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

                        But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier.

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                        • B
                          B
                          B C
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1101

                          I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. 

                          They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me.

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1102

                            Rowleym said:

                            http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                            They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

                            But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. 

                            I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head.

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                                 @DrLeadFoot

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                            • R
                              R
                              Rowleym
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1103

                              Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well.

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                              • R
                                R
                                Rowleym
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1104

                                I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution.

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1105

                                  Time me. And go!!eeaa3d8c6880ddb6243e49a117ba83fa.jpg

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                                       @DrLeadFoot

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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    B C
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                                    #1106

                                    hut hut hike!

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1107

                                      Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? 
                                      I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway.

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1108

                                        Camshaft time.. oh goodness

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRollsK
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                                          #1109

                                          Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak

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