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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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    Rowleym
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    #1100

    http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

    They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

    But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier.

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    sk8 or die

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      #1101

      I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. 

      They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me.

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
        wrote on last edited by
        #1102

        Rowleym said:

        http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

        They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

        But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. 

        I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head.

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             @DrLeadFoot

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          Rowleym
          wrote on last edited by
          #1103

          Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well.

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            Rowleym
            wrote on last edited by
            #1104

            I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution.

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
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              #1105

              Time me. And go!!eeaa3d8c6880ddb6243e49a117ba83fa.jpg

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                   @DrLeadFoot

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              • B
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                B C
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                #1106

                hut hut hike!

                1alligator2alligator3alligator4alligator5alligator

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
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                  #1107

                  Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? 
                  I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway.

                  ...

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1108

                    Camshaft time.. oh goodness

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                         @DrLeadFoot

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #1109

                      Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak

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                      • DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFoot
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1110

                        None broken. No tools used except for an 11mm and a Cresent Wrench.

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                             @DrLeadFoot

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #1111

                          God damn that harbor freight life is everywhere!

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1112

                            The head gasket replacement journey.

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                            Keeping organized.
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                            Too much wear?
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                            I can feel this one with my fingernail.
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                            Now I just need to disconnect my downpipe and remove the ARP head bolts and see the carnage.

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                                 @DrLeadFoot

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1113

                              No excuses! I replaced the headgasket and had everything back on except the exhaust on a Saturday, a week before I got married actually.

                              Good work, I have an extra set of caps if you need some.

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                              • DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFoot
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1114

                                Question. If some show some wear do I need new caps, carrier and cam? I feel one journal with my fingernail...

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                                     @DrLeadFoot

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                                • B
                                  B
                                  B C
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1115

                                  It is doubtful that you would have much success with other bearing caps since they are machined as a unit with the head and even running the caps that are mounted in the wrong location (originally machined for exhaust cam bearing #3 but using it on intake cam bearing #3) can be problematic

                                  When I was 17 I found this out the hard way when using a bearing cap from another engine and not being able to turn the engine over even with the bearing cap well under-torqued at 15ft-lb.

                                  I would scotch brite the scuff lightly to help knock down the edge a little and just not worry about it remembering that even at 7000 rpm your cams are only turning 3500 and arent under nearly the same load as the bearings on the crank.

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    #1116

                                    Man that is nasty! Looks like a milkshake that I would not be interested in drinking!

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1117

                                      It wasn't all that bad from other pictures I've seen.

                                      I talked to John and ECS and he said he has sold hundreds of these head gaskets and hasn't had one customer come back with a complaint.

                                      Link to head gasket info: http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                                      Oil cooler ideas w/ links.

                                      Oil cooler cap: http://www.rallyroad.net/content/oil-cooler-cap

                                      Thermostat: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-22-480/overview/

                                      Cooler(s): https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=2350

                                             - Not sure of what to do with the cooler size.  I haven't measured anything yet but thinking I could run two of the smaller Canton coolers in tandem behind and to the left and right of the kidney.

                                      Or do I just go S54 oil cooler and call it a day?

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1118

                                        Ideas of where to mount another gauge?  Don't want to do the A-pillar.

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                                             @DrLeadFoot

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                                        • wasnt m3W
                                          wasnt m3W
                                          wasnt m3
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1119

                                          I don't know if it would work but the upper center vent would be a prime spot in an e30. I've also heard great things about the CES cutring gaskets.

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