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  • IceddragonI
    IceddragonI
    Iceddragon
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    I'm not that interested in the huge power gains from it, its more something I was looking into for the cooling. There isn't any real downside to it after the install so I figure why not, it sets the car up nicely for later. I started looking into E85 a little but that sounds like a bigger pain. 

    I could be barking up the wrong tree here, but heat kills everything so it sounds like a relatively good way to keep things a lot cooler. I just wasn't sure how the tunes play with it.I really want to invest in parts in an order that will keep things from blowing up on me.

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    • suspencefulS
      suspencefulS
      suspenceful
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      #32

      patsbimmer1 said:

      Whoa now!  Put the brakes on the water/meth!  You don't even have a tune yet and you're worried about meth?  Go fbo and worry about meth later.  MHD does literally just about everything that jb4 does except 2-step which you don't need unless you're drag racing, gauge hijacking/sweeping which loses it's cool factor quickly and meth control which you don't need until you max out your injectors and you're far from that.  You could even get an external meth controller if you really wanted.

      Flash the car, add some parts, do another flash.  Jb4+MHD is great for maxing out the car but you're not even close to being there yet.  Enjoy the power gains incrementally while you learn how to drive it.

      Those were three of the differentiators I pointed out 😆

      As you can tell, Pat seems to be an MHD guy and I'm a JB4 guy. I run both and the car always ran PERFECT on stock turbos. I don't think you can go wrong with either, but JB4 has more benefits in my mind. If you want meth at some point, get JB4. It even integrates with port injection so you don't have to run a secondary controller.

      PS: Your injectors won't max out. It's the HPFP and LPFP that can't keep up. These direct injectors can supply fuel for days.

      Iceddragon said:

      I'm not that interested in the huge power gains from it, its more something I was looking into for the cooling. There isn't any real downside to it after the install so I figure why not, it sets the car up nicely for later. I started looking into E85 a little but that sounds like a bigger pain. 

      I could be barking up the wrong tree here, but heat kills everything so it sounds like a relatively good way to keep things a lot cooler. I just wasn't sure how the tunes play with it.I really want to invest in parts in an order that will keep things from blowing up on me. 

      I agree with Pat that meth wouldn't be my first mod, but it definitely benefits to cool things down. I'm thinking about adding it now with my current build, but need a new motor first. It never hurts to keep things cooler, but I'd get bolt ons and a tune first. If you have E85 in your area, it's worth mixing. JB4 even has an auto-tuning map that will give you the best performance for your current fuel and temperature conditions 😉

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        Daggerty
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        #33

        There is nothing wrong with meth injection on a stock car. You can just use water injection at first for cooling. If you run out of injector, meth would be a risky solution if you are running an off the shelf kit. The shurflo pumps don't last very long, and if you run out and do a hard pull things can happen. Meth injection is going to give you the benefit of running high octane fuel with out the 7 dollar a gallon price.

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        • IceddragonI
          IceddragonI
          Iceddragon
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          Opinions on muffler delete? I want to do exhaust work eventually but just want more volume for now, everything online is mixed between sounds great and drone.

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            B
            B C
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            #35

            "Golf tee mod" first

            http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80661

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            • patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1
              wrote on last edited by
              #36

              Sounds like shit.  Golf tee mod is a good start and a PE mod muffler with dp's is better.

              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
              95 325is *sold*
              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

              BMWCCA #473306

              Instagram @patsbimmer1

              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
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                #37

                I installed a downpipe on an f32 N55 which I think already had the PE exhaust the sound was awesome.

                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                • IceddragonI
                  IceddragonI
                  Iceddragon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  I didn't know that golf tee mod was a thing, I'll do that tonight and see how it sounds. I really just want volume for now and I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to put downpipes on.

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                  • patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    Downpipes help open it up and add volume but even without them the PE mod mufflers sound way nicer than hacking the muffler off.

                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                    95 325is *sold*
                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                    BMWCCA #473306

                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      #40

                      @jc43089 the n55 sounds a lot nicer than the n54 and you can correct me if you know otherwise but I believe the f32 doesn't have resonator's where the f30 does.  It's the same in the e90/e92.  Sedans have resonators.

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                      BMWCCA #473306

                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                      • IceddragonI
                        IceddragonI
                        Iceddragon
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        PE Mod is removing all the stuff inside the mufflers, isn't it? I don't have that sort of equipment

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                        • patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #42

                          Not exactly "removing all the stuff" but removing the perforated pipe inside the muffler and welding in a solid piece.  For a couple hundred bucks you can get it done by an exhaust shop.  Just please, for the love of all that is decent, don't cut the mufflers off.

                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                          95 325is *sold*
                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                          BMWCCA #473306

                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                          • IceddragonI
                            IceddragonI
                            Iceddragon
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            Looks like PO already did the PE mod. And I'll take your word on the mufflers and leave them alone lol, I have lots to learn about modding this thing and advice is one of the reasons I come here.

                            Case and point, your first suggestion just arrived today. I'll take it for a spin tomorrow to try it out since my car cover disappeared somehow anyway, I'll need a new one to keep birds away...

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #44

                              patsbimmer1 said:

                              @jc43089 the n55 sounds a lot nicer than the n54 and you can correct me if you know otherwise but I believe the f32 doesn't have resonator's where the f30 does.  It's the same in the e90/e92.  Sedans have resonators.

                              Hmm, that is quite possible, now that you mention it I don't think there was any resonator.

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #45

                                Nice!  The ZHP knob is awesome!

                                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                95 325is *sold*
                                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                BMWCCA #473306

                                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                • B
                                  B
                                  B C
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                                  #46

                                  No lead poisoning, no care

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                                  • IceddragonI
                                    IceddragonI
                                    Iceddragon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #47

                                    Put the car on a Dyno today to see how it does stock. Numbers were 240hp and 288tq. 

                                    I thought it would be a little higher but the power curve is amazing. 

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                                    • B
                                      B
                                      B C
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #48

                                      The N54 is an awesome engine

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRolls
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                                        #49

                                        Good to get baseline #s before doing upgrades.

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                                        • IceddragonI
                                          IceddragonI
                                          Iceddragon
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #50

                                          I feel good about these numbers and the graph itself looks healthy. There was an mr2 on before me and his graph was a mess, like it was missing or not getting good ignition. 

                                          Anyways, up we go

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