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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFoot
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    jc43089 said:

    Snap is thinking the bowl reinforcment that the 12v engines have.  24v doesn't have this.  You should not have to loosen the transmission.  Are you sure it is not just RTV "gluing" it on?

    I'll give it another good prying. I was getting nervous about breaking it before.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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    • jc43089J
      jc43089J
      jc43089
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      As long as you got all of the bolts out it should come off, use a putty knife to work it off of there.  I'm sure you did, but double check the perimeter for any bolts that you could have missed.  There are a couple at the back that are long if I remember right that go into the rear main seal housing but they are the same diameter as all of the rest.  If you still have trouble I have a spare oil pan that I could take a pic of.

      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
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        I just found my motivation. Just raced a Viper on the freeway in the M3. Needless to say I need a turbo in my life at all times. Sunday is go time.

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
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          #567

          ^ H3 GON3

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            #568

            B33R HIM

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
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              #569

              Finally! As I suspected but a little worse. Must have had loosened up and was turning it at weird angle so it sheared off. #powerproblems #havearaceshopbuilditnexttime

              What was in the bottom of the pan.

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
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                #570

                I think this is the best option.

                http://store.bimmerworld.com/gsr-m52m54-four-bolt-oil-pump-shaft-p2210.aspx

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                  Glad you got the pan off. The chain driving the oil pump is a different one from the cams, right? Any oil analysis results yet

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
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                    Snap said:

                    Glad you got the pan off. The chain driving the oil pump is a different one from the cams, right? Any oil analysis results yet

                    There are two different chains.  One guy on R3V said that the tensioner would have been affected but the tensioner only touches the timing chain not the oil pump chain.  I'm confused about that.

                    No results yet since I haven't mailed it.  The sample I took won't be 100% accurate because, as you know, you need to heat up the oil and mix it up.  I took the sample when the oil was about half way done draining.  I will be monitoring the oil closely from here on out just so I know when to replace my bearings.

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                      Are you anticipating a rebuild/new bearings kind of no-matter what? Or making a decision based on the results?

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                      • DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFoot
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                        #574

                        Snap said:

                        Are you anticipating a rebuild/new bearings kind of no-matter what? Or making a decision based on the results?

                        Based on results. The oil was newer and I caught it pretty quick I think. If it is okay I will shout the praises of Royal Purple from the mountains. A little worried about my turbo shaft play doe.

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #575

                          note to self....

                          never turbo anything, ever

                          drive camrys till the day i die

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                            tsweers89
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                            Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
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                              tsweers89 said:

                              Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

                              This, yours was safety wired?

                              I welded mine when I built my m50, it has survived 45k of bouncing off of the rev limiter.  I am NA though, but that wouldn't really affect the oil pump.

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFoot
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #578

                                jc43089 said:

                                Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

                                This, yours was safety wired?

                                I welded mine when I built my m50, it has survived 45k of bouncing off of the rev limiter. I am NA though, but that wouldn't really affect the oil pump.

                                It was not welded or safety wired. I didn't know about this and that is why I brought it to a shop... There was a lock washer installed but I don't think that was in the Bentley manual.

                                I'm going to do some more research to see if I can get the GSR pump to work with my current pump otherwise I will try to retrofit a m54 or m52 5 bolt pump in there. (I think this is right). If I need to weld a shorter pickup on one so be it.

                                I am worried about breaking the shaft aswell as the nut coming loose. This motor revs so fast!

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
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                                  #579

                                  This might be in my future.

                                  http://store.vacmotorsports.com/harmonic-damper-bmw-m50-m52-m54--s50-us-s52-us-p756.aspx#

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                                  • jc43089J
                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
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                                    I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

                                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
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                                      There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

                                      Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

                                      Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

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                                      • mkoeppM
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                                        mkoepp
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                                        jc43089 said:

                                        I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

                                        The base of the thread looks knurled too. That lock washer looks out of place.

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