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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFoot
    wrote on last edited by
    #569

    Finally! As I suspected but a little worse. Must have had loosened up and was turning it at weird angle so it sheared off. #powerproblems #havearaceshopbuilditnexttime

    What was in the bottom of the pan.

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    • DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFoot
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      #570

      I think this is the best option.

      http://store.bimmerworld.com/gsr-m52m54-four-bolt-oil-pump-shaft-p2210.aspx

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      • B
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        B C
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        #571

        Glad you got the pan off. The chain driving the oil pump is a different one from the cams, right? Any oil analysis results yet

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        • DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFoot
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          #572

          Snap said:

          Glad you got the pan off. The chain driving the oil pump is a different one from the cams, right? Any oil analysis results yet

          There are two different chains.  One guy on R3V said that the tensioner would have been affected but the tensioner only touches the timing chain not the oil pump chain.  I'm confused about that.

          No results yet since I haven't mailed it.  The sample I took won't be 100% accurate because, as you know, you need to heat up the oil and mix it up.  I took the sample when the oil was about half way done draining.  I will be monitoring the oil closely from here on out just so I know when to replace my bearings.

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            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #573

            Are you anticipating a rebuild/new bearings kind of no-matter what? Or making a decision based on the results?

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #574

              Snap said:

              Are you anticipating a rebuild/new bearings kind of no-matter what? Or making a decision based on the results?

              Based on results. The oil was newer and I caught it pretty quick I think. If it is okay I will shout the praises of Royal Purple from the mountains. A little worried about my turbo shaft play doe.

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              • KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRolls
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                #575

                note to self....

                never turbo anything, ever

                drive camrys till the day i die

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                  tsweers89
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                  #576

                  Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

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                  • jc43089J
                    jc43089J
                    jc43089
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                    #577

                    tsweers89 said:

                    Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

                    This, yours was safety wired?

                    I welded mine when I built my m50, it has survived 45k of bouncing off of the rev limiter.  I am NA though, but that wouldn't really affect the oil pump.

                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #578

                      jc43089 said:

                      Why wasn't this nut welded when it was put together at the very minimum? Knowing that these are known issues its something that shouldnt of happened in the first place. Also many many people go with the vac motorport oil pump upgrade which includes a hardend oil pump shaft. I don;'t know about the one you posted but that is an option as well. But do as you please. Also some of the older m50's have chain tensioners on the oil pump chain. Yours does not. Again some opt and add a Euro oil pump chain guide/tensioner or a s54 chain tensioner for the oil pump. Not 100% needed but something id consider if you are reving it high often.

                      This, yours was safety wired?

                      I welded mine when I built my m50, it has survived 45k of bouncing off of the rev limiter. I am NA though, but that wouldn't really affect the oil pump.

                      It was not welded or safety wired. I didn't know about this and that is why I brought it to a shop... There was a lock washer installed but I don't think that was in the Bentley manual.

                      I'm going to do some more research to see if I can get the GSR pump to work with my current pump otherwise I will try to retrofit a m54 or m52 5 bolt pump in there. (I think this is right). If I need to weld a shorter pickup on one so be it.

                      I am worried about breaking the shaft aswell as the nut coming loose. This motor revs so fast!

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                      • DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFootD
                        DrLeadFoot
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #579

                        This might be in my future.

                        http://store.vacmotorsports.com/harmonic-damper-bmw-m50-m52-m54--s50-us-s52-us-p756.aspx#

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #580

                          I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
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                            #581

                            There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

                            Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

                            Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

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                            • mkoeppM
                              mkoeppM
                              mkoepp
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #582

                              jc43089 said:

                              I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

                              The base of the thread looks knurled too. That lock washer looks out of place.

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                                B C
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                                #583

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                                  tsweers89
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #584

                                  DrLeadFoot said:

                                  This might be in my future.

                                  http://store.vacmotorsports.com/harmonic-damper-bmw-m50-m52-m54--s50-us-s52-us-p756.aspx#

                                  Not something really needed with your set up but again once you are ready let me know. As usual I get these cheaper then VAC (aka vac overcharges on a lot of things)

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                                  • DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFoot
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #585

                                    Snap said:

                                    WAY TOO SOON!!!! haha

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                                         @DrLeadFoot

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #586

                                      GunMetalGrey said:

                                      There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

                                      Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

                                      Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

                                      I didn't build it and the shop "doesn't recall" what they did with the nut.

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #587

                                        Something is out of place with how that was done. Breaking shafts is no good no matter how you slice it! 

                                        Pun intended

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #588

                                          Some more carnage pics. The hole on the nut doesn't go all the way through.

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