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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
    wrote on last edited by
    #1093

    ARP doesn't mention anything about a retorque, its actually in their FAQ's saying that you shouldn't need to. Not that it is a horrible idea, but its a heck of a lot of work on these motors. Standard sockets don't fit between the cam trays and head, and getting the VC off is no fun ;)
    Sucks that it failed, but luckily its not a hard job!

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    • EarlE
      EarlE
      Earl
      wrote on last edited by
      #1094

      So not coming to Concours Saturday now?

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
        wrote on last edited by
        #1095

        I'll be e46in'. Don't get sunburn from that engine light.

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        • R
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          Rowleym
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          #1096

          I gotta wonder why you wouldn't go with a cut ring gasket or o rings? And do you have any logs? Did you ever get rid of that richness? 

          I would definitely borrow a nice caliper and measure if those bad boys stretched. I'm kind of excited to see what the pistons look like.

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          • patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1
            wrote on last edited by
            #1097

            From what I can see there is no need to re-tighten the head bolts on the engine.  Not according to the replacement and torque procedure at least.

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
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              #1098

              There is hardly any room between the 87mm cylinders. Not sure if I can o-ring it

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
                wrote on last edited by
                #1099

                I'm still running rich. It drops into the 10s at 4-6k

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                • R
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                  Rowleym
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1100

                  http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                  They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

                  But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier.

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                  • B
                    B
                    B C
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                    #1101

                    I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. 

                    They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me.

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1102

                      Rowleym said:

                      http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                      They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

                      But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. 

                      I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head.

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                      • R
                        R
                        Rowleym
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1103

                        Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well.

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                        • R
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                          Rowleym
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1104

                          I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution.

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1105

                            Time me. And go!!eeaa3d8c6880ddb6243e49a117ba83fa.jpg

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                            • B
                              B
                              B C
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                              #1106

                              hut hut hike!

                              1alligator2alligator3alligator4alligator5alligator

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
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                                #1107

                                Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? 
                                I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway.

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
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                                  #1108

                                  Camshaft time.. oh goodness

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    #1109

                                    Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1110

                                      None broken. No tools used except for an 11mm and a Cresent Wrench.

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRolls
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                                        #1111

                                        God damn that harbor freight life is everywhere!

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1112

                                          The head gasket replacement journey.

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                                          Keeping organized.
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                                          Too much wear?
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                                          I can feel this one with my fingernail.
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                                          Now I just need to disconnect my downpipe and remove the ARP head bolts and see the carnage.

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                                               @DrLeadFoot

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