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87 535is - getting started

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    ohhh YES!  This is frickin awesome!  What company makes those pistons?  it appears that they should match the M30 combustion chamber nicely. What kind of compression increase are you getting and any idea what kind of weight savings these pistons might have over stock? Are you getting the cylinder bores honed + new rings and bearings as well? What duration/make of cam?

    Lots of questions, I know, but this is super exciting stuff!  I will soon find out how much more glorious the induction sounds are with the AFM gone on my car and will report back :D

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    • merlM
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      These pistons (and cam, cam sprocket) are custom made by Paul Burke with Imagineering 

      Compression ratio with these pistons on the M30B35 head is 10.5:1

      Don't know about weight but they are forged

      No boring and prob no honing as the block is a 95,000 mile block

      All new rings and wrist pins. Crank bearings will be determined.

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      • Brian.B
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        How much did those pistons set you back? I want to up my compression ratio since I'm not going turbo..

        instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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        • merlM
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          about $995 for the pistons.

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          • Brian.B
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            Brian.
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            #98

            That's not bad at all, upped the compression that much eh? So, with upping the compression like that, do you have to do anything to the computer?

            instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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              It wouldn't require more fuel, it would be using the standard quantity of fuel more efficiently so no changes there, timing tables could likely be advanced everywhere from the conservative factory values except for around a particular 3000-4500 rpm range where BMW SOHC engines can be prone to knock.   

              merl,  do you ever attend the Concours BMW car show? You should consider entering your car, I think it would be a huge hit

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              • merlM
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                It actually will want more fuel at higher RPM. Enough that 24lb/hr injectors are recommended... I can get away with standard injectors (19lb) but you run out at high RPM.

                I will be running Motronic 1.3 with a Miller WAR chip. With the WAR Chip I should be able to dial in enough timing to not knock or ping (I hope).... I also will have an adjustable Cam sprocket to dial in the cam exactly. I know you can get away with a 10:1 motor with a standard ECU, especially if you are running Motronic 1.3 but not with this much work done. 

                With the head porting, aggresive cam, and pistons we have to have control on the computer. Miller WAR is plenty for this build. I looked at Megasquirt as well but I was able to order this stuff as a package including the Miller WAR/MAF ... Also there are proven maps for this build for the Miller stuff. 

                Never considered the Concours as the body on the car is not much to look at ... not horrible but not great.

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                  Its plenty good enough,   plus theres free bagels and juice!!!!!!

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                  • merlM
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                    #102

                    LOL !!! ... sold, I'll do it !!

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                    • Brian.B
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                      Brian.
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                      #103

                      I want a Miller WAR chip, and their tiny MAF. post pictures of both! :)

                      instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                      • merlM
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                        I will when they are received ... I do not have an ETA yet as they have to make the pistons and cam  :cool:

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                          merl said:

                          I will when they are received ... I do not have an ETA yet as they have to make the pistons and cam  :cool:

                          Why get an 'e' when you can get an 'i'   

                          /e30 humor

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                          • merlM
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                            merl
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                            #106

                            HA ... didn't even notice that when I posted

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                              snap oversteer said:

                              Why get an 'e' when you can get an 'i'   

                              /e30 humor 

                              Don't hating on the ETA  :(  Liking the progress!!

                              Chris Young
                              BMWCCA #458972
                              1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                              • merlM
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                                Motor completely disconnected except for the transmission. Pull the bolts on the bell housing, pull motor !! Soon !!

                                Still have trim work to do

                                Wiring

                                Diff

                                Vacuum brakes

                                clean engine bay

                                Mount gauges

                                new fuel lines

                                order radiator 

                                electric fan 

                                mount Hartge spoiler

                                Remove spoiler

                                Have bumpers and spoiler painted

                                and .. oh ya .. build motor. 

                                Uggghhh, it's still a long road. Gonna have to put some hours in.

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                                  This is substantial work though, you are going to be so stoked driving this thing around!  The weather getting nice was definitely a big motivation for me to get my car put back together.

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                                  • merlM
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                                    Agreed ... I am enjoying every minute of working on the car. So a long road, but enjoyable.

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                                      The weather rocks. I gotta do a vacuum line revamp. But that can wait. This thing's coming along nicely Merl! :)

                                      instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                                      • merlM
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                                        I don't care what anyone says ... getting the transmission out sucks .... a lot !!

                                        I am going to put it in as one unit ... I will make it work. I am not going to put that transmission on after the motor is in .... Ugghhhhh

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                                          oh definitely not. It was such a breeze to take the engine and trans out in 1 piece and re-install it as 1 piece. You can sit down and do a proper job replacing seals and things when its out of the car too. the next time I need a clutch I will be removing the engine and trans together again.

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