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R

Nice project!

I wouldn't have the stomach for this kind of work...

R

bfinley said:

Did some work over the weekend, burned up my grinder stripping the inch of bondo on the ass end of the e21, then relaxed with some beer, scotch, and delicious food at Mikes sisters grad party !

I see a sexy e28 in this picture...

J

Snap said:

Are the non-sprung centers just solid steel or is there a rubber damper inside, I have never worked with a dual mass clutch.

The solid center clutches go with dual mass flywheels, the sprung hub clutch goes with a solid flywheel. They serve the same purpose, the most noticeable of which is absorb vibration between power pulses at idle to prevent gear rattle in the transmission. There are some kits that sell a solid clutch and solid flywheel. I would steer clear as this is pretty sketch.

R

That patch behind ur gas door looks like a filler for an old fuel cell

B

It's on both sides, they had side marker lights at one point

B

Body is mostly stripped... Gotta get degreaser, button up the inner fenders, order the cage, paint

B

So I went to the dealer to get all the linkage parts... 500 dollars after tax... And the parts guy was less than helpful so I've got a list of parts to look at and then call in an order guy was less than

J

What linkage parts? Kruse Warthan is usually dissapointing, on service and price.

B

jc43089 said:

What linkage parts? Kruse Warthan is usually dissapointing, on service and price.

I'm at my parents so I went to motorwerks BMW in Bloomington mn.

I'm going to go back on Monday when a friend of a friend is working. He is supposed to be good.

Basically the whole carrier and linkage that you have in yours John

J

Oh, I have been thinking about a better deal, there are floor mount shifters available like this.

We could make a custom one, it is just a plate over the shifter hole with a socket for the pivot ball. And then all that is needed is to fabricate a custom length selector rod once you know the dimension from the shifter to the transmission. Do you know for sure that the e30 parts will even work correctly in an e21? I bought a used aluminum carrier from somebody on BFC for $35 shipped so I would not but that stuff new.

B

This is what I'm getting info wise off my thread in the bimmerforums

Looks exactly like what you have in yours john

R

Looks exactly like the linkage for my e28 as well

B

lots of dust up in there!

Are you finished with the metal cutting/welding patches?

B

Well I went to the Motorwerks BMW in Bloomington MN on Saturday since I am at my parents for the weekend.
They want 538 dollars for everything in the specific exploded diagram, I politely thanked them for their time and walked out with an itemized list and the memory of why I don't work for a dealership anymore.

After doing some more digging about my specific trans I found that it is a "late" model gt 260 which can accept both the plate and beam style of shifter...
So that helps and I'll be holding out for a used part instead of dropping a ridiculous amount for NEW

Which means I can look at buying the clutch and flywheel as well.

Shooting for an installable motor by the end of the month.

Here's the website that helped me sort out which version of the 260 I've got

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=33173

AND - dohcdoh on bimmerforums.com just sold me a complete linkage for 45 dollars shipped... that is a lot better than 500!

B

Snap said:

lots of dust up in there!

Are you finished with the metal cutting/welding patches?

Havent started yet... I'll admit that cutting the floor out scares me a bit and I've been fixated on getting the pait stripped so I can deep clean the shop and be done with that.

J

Glad you found one, I got one minus the shifter itself for 35 shipped. I just used my old e36 shifter for the e30. What are you thinking for the flywheel clutch setup?

B

jc43089 said:

Glad you found one, I got one minus the shifter itself for 35 shipped. I just used my old e36 shifter for the e30. What are you thinking for the flywheel clutch setup?

Yeah someone said I could reuse the e21 shifter as well, I figured what the heck and got the whole unit so I don't have to mess around with it.

I'll get a short shifter eventually as well.

Clutch and flywheel I'm just going to buy new and bite that bullet but as long as both pieces are for the same car I can use a clutch and fly wheel from any model e30 I like, so lightweight single mass kit it is.

spending 700 bucks on a kit doesn't sound so bad when you're not spending 500 dollars on a shifter either

J

What kits in particular are you looking at? I think my UUC is great at 11.5 lbs (flywheel is actually 8.5 but the larger clutch/PP is 3lbs more than stock) but very expensive. After more research I think the are made by Fidanza, I am not convinced that the Ebay ones are different at all. You may be able to tell by what clutch parts are used in the kit. Mine uses an e34 m5 oem clutch, PP, and throwout bearing.

B

The UUC from BAV auto with the oem M5 clutch for 900 bucks?

J

Ok, Watch their site directly, they do nice promos almost every weekend, until midnight it is 10% off and free shipping. The price on their site is $974. They frequently do 15% off so I would hold out for that, Price has probably gone up from 3 years ago but I think I paid 750ish.

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