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1978 e21 m20 turbo swap, AKA What did I get myself into

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    bfinley
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    It's on both sides, they had side marker lights at one point

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      Body is mostly stripped... Gotta get degreaser, button up the inner fenders, order the cage, paint

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        So I went to the dealer to get all the linkage parts... 500 dollars after tax... And the parts guy was less than helpful so I've got a list of parts to look at and then call in an order guy was less than

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          What linkage parts?  Kruse Warthan is usually dissapointing, on service and price.

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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            jc43089 said:

            What linkage parts?  Kruse Warthan is usually dissapointing, on service and price.

            I'm at my parents so I went to motorwerks BMW in Bloomington mn.

            I'm going to go back on Monday when a friend of a friend is working. He is supposed to be good.

            Basically the whole carrier and linkage that you have in yours John

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
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              Oh, I have been thinking about a better deal, there are floor mount shifters available like this. 

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              We could make a custom one, it is just a plate over the shifter hole with a socket for the pivot ball.  And then all that is needed is to fabricate a custom length selector rod once you know the dimension from the shifter to the transmission.  Do you know for sure that the e30 parts will even work correctly in an e21?  I bought a used aluminum carrier from somebody on BFC for $35 shipped so I would not but that stuff new.

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                bfinley
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                This is what I'm getting info wise off my thread in the bimmerforums

                Looks exactly like what you have in yours john

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                • RamRod E28R
                  RamRod E28R
                  RamRod E28
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                  Looks exactly like the linkage for my e28 as well

                  1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                  1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                  1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                  1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                  1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                  1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                  2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                  3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                    lots of dust up in there!

                    Are you finished with the metal cutting/welding patches?

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                      bfinley
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                      Well I went to the Motorwerks BMW in Bloomington MN on Saturday since I am at my parents for the weekend.
                      They want 538 dollars for everything in the specific exploded diagram, I politely thanked them for their time and walked out with an itemized list and the memory of why I don't work for a dealership anymore.

                      After doing some more digging about my specific trans I found that it is a "late" model gt 260 which can accept both the plate and beam style of shifter...
                      So that helps and I'll be holding out for a used part instead of dropping a ridiculous amount for NEW

                      Which means I can look at buying the clutch and flywheel as well.

                      Shooting for an installable motor by the end of the month.

                      Here's the website that helped me sort out which version of the 260 I've got

                      http://www.unofficialbmw.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=33173

                      AND - dohcdoh on bimmerforums.com just sold me a complete linkage for 45 dollars shipped... that is a lot better than 500!

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                        bfinley
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                        Snap said:

                        lots of dust up in there!

                        Are you finished with the metal cutting/welding patches?

                        Havent started yet... I'll admit that cutting the floor out scares me a bit and I've been fixated on getting the pait stripped so I can deep clean the shop and be done with that.

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
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                          Glad you found one, I got one minus the shifter itself for 35 shipped.  I just used my old e36 shifter for the e30.  What are you thinking for the flywheel clutch setup?

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                            bfinley
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                            jc43089 said:

                            Glad you found one, I got one minus the shifter itself for 35 shipped.  I just used my old e36 shifter for the e30.  What are you thinking for the flywheel clutch setup?

                            Yeah someone said I could reuse the e21 shifter as well, I figured what the heck and got the whole unit so I don't have to mess around with it.

                            I'll get a short shifter eventually as well.

                            Clutch and flywheel I'm just going to buy new and bite that bullet but as long as both pieces are for the same car I can use a clutch and fly wheel from any model e30 I like, so lightweight single mass kit it is.

                            spending 700 bucks on a kit doesn't sound so bad when you're not spending 500 dollars on a shifter either

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                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
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                              What kits in particular are you looking at?  I think my UUC is great at 11.5 lbs (flywheel is actually 8.5 but the larger clutch/PP is 3lbs more than stock) but very expensive.  After more research I think the are made by Fidanza, I am not convinced that the Ebay ones are different at all.  You may be able to tell by what clutch parts are used in the kit.  Mine uses an e34 m5 oem clutch, PP, and throwout bearing.

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                bfinley
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                                The UUC from BAV auto with the oem M5 clutch for 900 bucks?

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                                  jc43089J
                                  jc43089
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                                  Ok, Watch their site directly, they do nice promos almost every weekend, until midnight it is 10% off and free shipping.  The price on their site is $974.  They frequently do 15% off so I would hold out for that, Price has probably gone up from 3 years ago but I think I paid 750ish.

                                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                    bfinley
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                                    Might be saving a bunch of cash and getting the clutch and fly off the Kamotors e30

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                                      bfinley
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                                      Might be saving a bunch of cash and getting the clutch and fly off the Kamotors e30

                                      Got the shifter linkage

                                      Flares are ordered

                                      Got a second lead on fenders in good shape

                                      So I'm using mine to test the paint scheme

                                      Dtm fiberwerks Motorsport front bumper and factory rear vent windows are on there way shortly

                                      Now I need to drop the rear sub, get the drive shaft out

                                      Fab motor mounts

                                      Fix brakes

                                      Paint

                                      Reassemble

                                      M20 burnouts !

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                                      • RamRod E28R
                                        RamRod E28R
                                        RamRod E28
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                                        Its so easy when you say it isnt it?!

                                        1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                                        1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                                        1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                                        1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                                        1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                                        1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                                        2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                                        3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                                          bfinley
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                                          I just have to keep saying it and crossing things off the list...

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