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1978 e21 m20 turbo swap, AKA What did I get myself into

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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
    wrote on last edited by
    #104

    Is that a whole new quarter?

    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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      bfinley
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      No thankfully. It is a whole sprsy csn of primer

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      • RamRod E28R
        RamRod E28R
        RamRod E28
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        #106

        If you are doing that dash you need some shark mouths painted on the front fender to match the fighter plane cockpit

        1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

        1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

        1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

        1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

        1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

        1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

        2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

        3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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          bfinley
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          #107

          Ok after a ride in Mikes e28 I'm chomping at the bit to get the motor and trans together and back in the car... (after fixing the floor and all that nonsense.)

          So I need a clutch and flywheel since the ETA motor I bought off mike was an autotragic.

          Pelican and BAVauto want roughly 5-700 dollars for a clutchkit and flywheel so I've turned to ebay.

          Before I pull the trigger I'd like some reassurance that I'm buying the right parts since I'm frankensteining parts from different years together.

          Motor is out of a '84 528e which is what I've speced the clutch and flywheel for.

          Trans is a midyear 85/86 GT260

          Pretty sure it should all match up....

          Here are the links I'm looking at

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-FX-CLUTCH-KIT-84-93-BMW-325-e-es-i-is-ix-525i-528e-2-5L-2-7L-E28-E30-E34-/400687829057?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item5d4adb1041&vxp=mtr

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXEDY-CLUTCH-PRO-KIT-BMW-325i-325is-325ix-525i-2-5L-E30-E34-M20-528e-2-7L-E28-/161027461479?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item257dfc1167&vxp=mtr

          May have just found a clutch and flywheel on car-parts.com fingers crossed

          I want my car back!

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          • RamRod E28R
            RamRod E28R
            RamRod E28
            wrote on last edited by
            #108

            car-part.com is a magical website!!!

            1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

            1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

            1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

            1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

            1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

            1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

            2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

            3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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              bfinley
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              #109

              It is. Im hopefully getying fenders from them as well

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              • RamRod E28R
                RamRod E28R
                RamRod E28
                wrote on last edited by
                #110

                why not just a whole parts car? everyone needs one... :)

                1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                  bfinley
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                  #111

                  I haven't seen any affordable e21 or e28 or e30 parts cars...

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                  • RamRod E28R
                    RamRod E28R
                    RamRod E28
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #112

                    No need to look one will find you... Trust me, I know from experience

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-rGAM_KeA

                    1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                    1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                    1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                    1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                    1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                    1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                    2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                    3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #113

                      bfinley said:

                      Ok after a ride in Mikes e28 I'm chomping at the bit to get the motor and trans together and back in the car... (after fixing the floor and all that nonsense.)

                      So I need a clutch and flywheel since the ETA motor I bought off mike was an autotragic.

                      Pelican and BAVauto want roughly 5-700 dollars for a clutchkit and flywheel so I've turned to ebay.

                      Before I pull the trigger I'd like some reassurance that I'm buying the right parts since I'm frankensteining parts from different years together.

                      Motor is out of a '84 528e which is what I've speced the clutch and flywheel for.

                      Trans is a midyear 85/86 GT260

                      Pretty sure it should all match up....

                      Here are the links I'm looking at

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-FX-CLUTCH-KIT-84-93-BMW-325-e-es-i-is-ix-525i-528e-2-5L-2-7L-E28-E30-E34-/400687829057?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item5d4adb1041&vxp=mtr

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXEDY-CLUTCH-PRO-KIT-BMW-325i-325is-325ix-525i-2-5L-E30-E34-M20-528e-2-7L-E28-/161027461479?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item257dfc1167&vxp=mtr

                      May have just found a clutch and flywheel on car-parts.com fingers crossed

                      I want my car back!

                      You may want to just buy a lightweight flywheel/ clutch setup, I spent 290 on an OE Sachs clutch for my e30.  Those are "i" clutches to go with a single mass flywheel, you can tell because of the sprung hub center, clutches for a dual mass flywheel have solid centers.  Connor is coming over tomorrow and we are putting in an F1 flywheel with Sachs clutch in his e36.  I think it was around 500 for clutch and flywheel.

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                      • YoungCRY
                        YoungCRY
                        YoungCR
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                        #114

                        Buy an LUK kit from rockauto. LUK is a BMW OEM supplier and often uses sachs parts in their kits too but for a lower price. You'd have to research the difference between those too part numbers as I'm not sure. I'd reccomend with what John is saying, you'll want a beefier clutch for the turbo application. Any M20/M5X clutch will fit, its just a matter of your price range.

                        LUK Part # 03010 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $138.79

                        LUK Part # 03013 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $154.79

                        SACHS Part # KF29603 {#KF29601} Body code E28; Outer Diam: 9; Inner Diam: 1 1/8; TEETH:10T (Only 1 Remaining) $192.79

                        Chris Young
                        BMWCCA #458972
                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                        • YoungCRY
                          YoungCRY
                          YoungCR
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #115

                          Buy an LUK kit from rockauto. LUK is a BMW OEM supplier and often uses sachs parts in their kits too but for a lower price. You'd have to research the difference between those too part numbers as I'm not sure. I'd reccomend with what John is saying, you'll want a beefier clutch for the turbo application. Any M20/M5X clutch will fit, its just a matter of your price range.

                          LUK Part # 03010 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $138.79

                          LUK Part # 03013 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $154.79

                          SACHS Part # KF29603 {#KF29601} Body code E28; Outer Diam: 9; Inner Diam: 1 1/8; TEETH:10T (Only 1 Remaining) $192.79

                          Chris Young
                          BMWCCA #458972
                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                            B C
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                            #116

                            Are the non-sprung centers just solid steel or is there a rubber damper inside, I have never worked with a dual mass clutch.

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                              bfinley
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                              #117

                              Goodness the salvage yard I contacted about clutch and flywheel wanted 340 dollars to ship 160 dollars worth of parts ... Ummm no

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                              • Bassboy3313B
                                Bassboy3313B
                                Bassboy3313
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                                #118

                                my experience with yards is that they do not like to ship things, so they put a high price on parts when shipping. Stupid, I know!

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                                  bfinley
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                                  #119

                                  ajavy9a2.jpgvuquzy7u.jpga2y9u5y8.jpgdema4ama.jpgyvunype2.jpgveby3y7u.jpgu4u7u5uv.jpg

                                  Did some work over the weekend, burned up my grinder stripping the inch of bondo on the ass end of the e21, then relaxed with some beer, scotch, and delicious food at Mikes sisters grad party !

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                                  • Ryan...R
                                    Ryan...R
                                    Ryan...
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                                    #120

                                    Nice project!

                                    I wouldn't have the stomach for this kind of work...

                                    2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                                    2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                                    • RamRod E28R
                                      RamRod E28R
                                      RamRod E28
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                                      #121

                                      bfinley said:

                                      ajavy9a2.jpgvuquzy7u.jpga2y9u5y8.jpgdema4ama.jpgyvunype2.jpgveby3y7u.jpgu4u7u5uv.jpg Did some work over the weekend, burned up my grinder stripping the inch of bondo on the ass end of the e21, then relaxed with some beer, scotch, and delicious food at Mikes sisters grad party !

                                      I see a sexy e28 in this picture...

                                      1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                                      1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                                      1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                                      1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                                      1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                                      1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                                      2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                                      3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                                      • jc43089J
                                        jc43089J
                                        jc43089
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #122

                                        Snap said:

                                        Are the non-sprung centers just solid steel or is there a rubber damper inside, I have never worked with a dual mass clutch. 

                                        The solid center clutches go with dual mass flywheels, the sprung hub clutch goes with a solid flywheel.  They serve the same purpose, the most noticeable of which is absorb vibration between power pulses at idle to prevent gear rattle in the transmission.  There are some kits that sell a solid clutch and solid flywheel.  I would steer clear as this is pretty sketch.

                                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                        • RamRod E28R
                                          RamRod E28R
                                          RamRod E28
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                                          #123

                                          That patch behind ur gas door looks like a filler for an old fuel cell

                                          1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                                          1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                                          1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                                          1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                                          1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                                          1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                                          2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                                          3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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