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1978 e21 m20 turbo swap, AKA What did I get myself into

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  • DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFootD
    DrLeadFoot
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    #100

    bfinley said:

    Do work!!  Looking good and it is good to see it being done the right way.

    Thank you!

    I don't know about "done the right way" but it's going to get done and it's going to be obscenely fun

    It seems you aren't bandaidin' the car. You're getting in there and addressing the issue. That's done the right way in my book!

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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      bfinley
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      I found my dash !

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      • jc43089J
        jc43089J
        jc43089
        wrote on last edited by
        #102

        bfinley said:

        The dash will go back after I add some tubing for structural integrity.

        John you know Mike and I aren't as meticulous as you are, we'll just remember where everything went right? ok there isn't a chance I'll rememer and we definitely didn't label them. Most everything in the dash however will not be going back. I'll be making a custom gauge cluster with lots of aircraft style switches, because I can !

        Snap, this car will be driving and painted by the end of the summer

        :cool:   This does nothing except get me in trouble with my wife for spending too much money on oem parts...  I would not recommend being OCD like me.

        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          bfinley
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          I may have gotten a little ahead of myself

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          • jc43089J
            jc43089J
            jc43089
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            #104

            Is that a whole new quarter?

            2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
            3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
            '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

            '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

            '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
            '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
            '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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              bfinley
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              #105

              No thankfully. It is a whole sprsy csn of primer

              Sent from my SCH-R830 using Tapatalk

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              • RamRod E28R
                RamRod E28R
                RamRod E28
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                #106

                If you are doing that dash you need some shark mouths painted on the front fender to match the fighter plane cockpit

                1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                  bfinley
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                  #107

                  Ok after a ride in Mikes e28 I'm chomping at the bit to get the motor and trans together and back in the car... (after fixing the floor and all that nonsense.)

                  So I need a clutch and flywheel since the ETA motor I bought off mike was an autotragic.

                  Pelican and BAVauto want roughly 5-700 dollars for a clutchkit and flywheel so I've turned to ebay.

                  Before I pull the trigger I'd like some reassurance that I'm buying the right parts since I'm frankensteining parts from different years together.

                  Motor is out of a '84 528e which is what I've speced the clutch and flywheel for.

                  Trans is a midyear 85/86 GT260

                  Pretty sure it should all match up....

                  Here are the links I'm looking at

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-FX-CLUTCH-KIT-84-93-BMW-325-e-es-i-is-ix-525i-528e-2-5L-2-7L-E28-E30-E34-/400687829057?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item5d4adb1041&vxp=mtr

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXEDY-CLUTCH-PRO-KIT-BMW-325i-325is-325ix-525i-2-5L-E30-E34-M20-528e-2-7L-E28-/161027461479?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item257dfc1167&vxp=mtr

                  May have just found a clutch and flywheel on car-parts.com fingers crossed

                  I want my car back!

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                  • RamRod E28R
                    RamRod E28R
                    RamRod E28
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #108

                    car-part.com is a magical website!!!

                    1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                    1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                    1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                    1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                    1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                    1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                    2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                    3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                      bfinley
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                      #109

                      It is. Im hopefully getying fenders from them as well

                      Sent from my SCH-R830 using Tapatalk

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                      • RamRod E28R
                        RamRod E28R
                        RamRod E28
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #110

                        why not just a whole parts car? everyone needs one... :)

                        1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                        1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                        1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                        1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                        1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                        1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                        2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                        3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                          bfinley
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                          #111

                          I haven't seen any affordable e21 or e28 or e30 parts cars...

                          Sent from my SCH-R830 using Tapatalk

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                          • RamRod E28R
                            RamRod E28R
                            RamRod E28
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #112

                            No need to look one will find you... Trust me, I know from experience

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-rGAM_KeA

                            1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                            1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                            1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                            1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                            1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                            1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                            2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

                            3bc80c27-0937-43e3-9e7f-00404a337ec1zps

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #113

                              bfinley said:

                              Ok after a ride in Mikes e28 I'm chomping at the bit to get the motor and trans together and back in the car... (after fixing the floor and all that nonsense.)

                              So I need a clutch and flywheel since the ETA motor I bought off mike was an autotragic.

                              Pelican and BAVauto want roughly 5-700 dollars for a clutchkit and flywheel so I've turned to ebay.

                              Before I pull the trigger I'd like some reassurance that I'm buying the right parts since I'm frankensteining parts from different years together.

                              Motor is out of a '84 528e which is what I've speced the clutch and flywheel for.

                              Trans is a midyear 85/86 GT260

                              Pretty sure it should all match up....

                              Here are the links I'm looking at

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-FX-CLUTCH-KIT-84-93-BMW-325-e-es-i-is-ix-525i-528e-2-5L-2-7L-E28-E30-E34-/400687829057?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item5d4adb1041&vxp=mtr

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXEDY-CLUTCH-PRO-KIT-BMW-325i-325is-325ix-525i-2-5L-E30-E34-M20-528e-2-7L-E28-/161027461479?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3ABMW|Model%3A528e&hash=item257dfc1167&vxp=mtr

                              May have just found a clutch and flywheel on car-parts.com fingers crossed

                              I want my car back!

                              You may want to just buy a lightweight flywheel/ clutch setup, I spent 290 on an OE Sachs clutch for my e30.  Those are "i" clutches to go with a single mass flywheel, you can tell because of the sprung hub center, clutches for a dual mass flywheel have solid centers.  Connor is coming over tomorrow and we are putting in an F1 flywheel with Sachs clutch in his e36.  I think it was around 500 for clutch and flywheel.

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • YoungCRY
                                YoungCRY
                                YoungCR
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #114

                                Buy an LUK kit from rockauto. LUK is a BMW OEM supplier and often uses sachs parts in their kits too but for a lower price. You'd have to research the difference between those too part numbers as I'm not sure. I'd reccomend with what John is saying, you'll want a beefier clutch for the turbo application. Any M20/M5X clutch will fit, its just a matter of your price range.

                                LUK Part # 03010 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $138.79

                                LUK Part # 03013 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $154.79

                                SACHS Part # KF29603 {#KF29601} Body code E28; Outer Diam: 9; Inner Diam: 1 1/8; TEETH:10T (Only 1 Remaining) $192.79

                                Chris Young
                                BMWCCA #458972
                                1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                • YoungCRY
                                  YoungCRY
                                  YoungCR
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #115

                                  Buy an LUK kit from rockauto. LUK is a BMW OEM supplier and often uses sachs parts in their kits too but for a lower price. You'd have to research the difference between those too part numbers as I'm not sure. I'd reccomend with what John is saying, you'll want a beefier clutch for the turbo application. Any M20/M5X clutch will fit, its just a matter of your price range.

                                  LUK Part # 03010 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $138.79

                                  LUK Part # 03013 Idle-stage Damper (Only 1 Remaining) $154.79

                                  SACHS Part # KF29603 {#KF29601} Body code E28; Outer Diam: 9; Inner Diam: 1 1/8; TEETH:10T (Only 1 Remaining) $192.79

                                  Chris Young
                                  BMWCCA #458972
                                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                    B C
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                                    #116

                                    Are the non-sprung centers just solid steel or is there a rubber damper inside, I have never worked with a dual mass clutch.

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                                      bfinley
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                                      #117

                                      Goodness the salvage yard I contacted about clutch and flywheel wanted 340 dollars to ship 160 dollars worth of parts ... Ummm no

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                                      • Bassboy3313B
                                        Bassboy3313B
                                        Bassboy3313
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                                        #118

                                        my experience with yards is that they do not like to ship things, so they put a high price on parts when shipping. Stupid, I know!

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                                          bfinley
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                                          Did some work over the weekend, burned up my grinder stripping the inch of bondo on the ass end of the e21, then relaxed with some beer, scotch, and delicious food at Mikes sisters grad party !

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