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  • ClassEC
    ClassEC
    ClassE
    wrote on last edited by
    #316

    He means a runner angle like this:

    B85EC324-8042-4EAE-940A-FAC078BE8052.jpg

    Which would work best for NA if you can clear the booster (or delete it). Longer runners will give more torque in lower RPMs.

    I love this idea - I'm not sure it's a "whack it up and weld" kinda job - but I don't know your fab skills either. Regardless - if I stay M20 this is most likely course of action in fall!

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    • B
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      #317

      Ah yes. Looks like its been done before. Nice work finding the pic

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
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        #318

        If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

        If you're going for big power go 24v.

        Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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             @DrLeadFoot

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          #319

          DrLeadFoot said:

          If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

          If you're going for big power go 24v.

          Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

          Mention of ditching EFI for carbs  and ditching M20 for 24v  

          all in one post.

          I cant handle this.

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          • DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFoot
            wrote on last edited by
            #320

            Snap said:

            If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

            If you're going for big power go 24v.

            Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

            Mention of ditching EFI for carbs  and ditching M20 for 24v  

            all in one post.

            I cant handle this.

            Haha. That post has Snap written all over it!

            Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

            15924991875a64c599885m.jpg

                 @DrLeadFoot

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            • R
              R
              Rowleym
              wrote on last edited by
              #321

              ClassE said:

              He means a runner angle like this:

              B85EC324-8042-4EAE-940A-FAC078BE8052.jpg

              Which would work best for NA if you can clear the booster (or delete it). Longer runners will give more torque in lower RPMs.

              I love this idea - I'm not sure it's a "whack it up and weld" kinda job - but I don't know your fab skills either. Regardless - if I stay M20 this is most likely course of action in fall!

              If Anyone has a CAD drawing of an m20 manifold flange, I could CNC a flange, and not use the stock stuff at all, but then I would also have to build injector bungs, and then it starts getting costy(for you guys). 

              I was going to use the stock manifold, and cut the flange, to try and keep the cost low for the people. And its damn easy. 

              But I do have material for 3 Intake manifolds for supercharged m50's currently

              I am adapting a gen 3 eaton m90 to 24v's, but I am also thinking about doing it to an e30 :) 

              But I do not have velocity stacks yet(wasn't going to use them with the supercharger) and I don't have those little bends. 

              But why did you say 130* snap?

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              sk8 or die

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                #322

                Rowleym said:

                But why did you say 130* snap? 

                I was laying on my side while I posted that, now that I am right-side up, it would be more of a 60-70 degree bend.

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                • ClassEC
                  ClassEC
                  ClassE
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #323

                  Started replacing front tie rods last night - didn't know BMW used a lock plate to hold the inner tie rods.... Which apparently needs to be replaced since you ruin them removing the originals.

                  So dealership will have some for me tomorrow - car sits until then. :( So no alignment before Saturday. No happy about it - but not super concerned either. Rear toe looks good, car tracks straight, camber is alittle off side-to-side but not enough to worry me for 200 miles.

                  After the GTG.... Time for some painting and coating in the bay before Scooters.

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                  • B
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                    B C
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #324

                    E36/Z3 does not use lock plates. 

                    I just used blue loctite on my Z3 rack and have had zero problems with it.

                    Ask anyone about what a sane and gentle driver I am and you will take comfort in knowing its kosher :D

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                    • EarlE
                      EarlE
                      Earl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #325

                      Snap said:

                      E36/Z3 does not use lock plates. 

                      I just used blue loctite on my Z3 rack and have had zero problems with it.

                      Ask anyone about what a sane and gentle driver I am and you will take comfort in knowing its kosher :D

                      My compact uses them 

                      http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CG53&mospid=47505&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25

                      It also looks like other e36's use them

                      http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG13&mospid=47485&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25

                      museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                      • B
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #326

                        None on the Z3 though

                        [http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CJ33&mospid=48094&btnr=32\_0630&hg=32&fg=25

                        I](http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CJ33&mospid=48094&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25) am using E30 tie rods with the Z3 rack, there is nothing special about the Z3 rack that would aid in tie-rod retention. 

                        The primary reason for the lock plate from my own observation is to keep the inner tie rod from loosening during an alignment. 

                        But take what I say as typical forum hearsay, I was not present in the ZF steering rack design meetings to be able to know the exact reasons why. 

                        Im not from here.

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                        • EarlE
                          EarlE
                          Earl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #327

                          lol I wasn't ripping on you Snap=) I trust your word over most things

                          museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                          • B
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #328

                            Oh I know, no rustlin over here. 

                            I want to make sure I am not feeding bad information so I do my best to backup what I say when there may be question

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                            • andyhundleyA
                              andyhundleyA
                              andyhundley
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #329

                              Earl and snap are going to fight to the death Saturday morning!

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                              • B
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #330

                                things get tense when your project isnt finished.

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                                • ClassEC
                                  ClassEC
                                  ClassE
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #331

                                  "Snap said..."

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                                  • jc43089J
                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #332

                                    Just to throw in my 2 cents, my 2/94 e36 steering rack has lock plates.  If you are going with just loctite, make sure you get the threads clean with brakeclean or something so that the loctite actually works.

                                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                    • ClassEC
                                      ClassEC
                                      ClassE
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #333

                                      So replacement inner tie rod ends are "fatter", so not enough overhang to bend washer flanges down.... Nice.

                                      1C88CD6E-FCA9-4C09-87EF-DB40BE33C67B.jpg

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                                      • jc43089J
                                        jc43089J
                                        jc43089
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #334

                                        Eh, just giver!

                                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                        • ClassEC
                                          ClassEC
                                          ClassE
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #335

                                          Blue loctite and DUN... Taking to work tomorrow as a test run for Saturday... Kinda worried still about the quasi-whine thing from rear.

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