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  • R
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    Rowleym
    wrote on last edited by
    #315

    130 degree bends to cut in half? What runner length would you like? I cut a manifold up, and I will be taking measurements tonight.

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    sk8 or die

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
      wrote on last edited by
      #316

      He means a runner angle like this:

      B85EC324-8042-4EAE-940A-FAC078BE8052.jpg

      Which would work best for NA if you can clear the booster (or delete it). Longer runners will give more torque in lower RPMs.

      I love this idea - I'm not sure it's a "whack it up and weld" kinda job - but I don't know your fab skills either. Regardless - if I stay M20 this is most likely course of action in fall!

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      • B
        B
        B C
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        #317

        Ah yes. Looks like its been done before. Nice work finding the pic

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        • DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFoot
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          #318

          If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

          If you're going for big power go 24v.

          Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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               @DrLeadFoot

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          • B
            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #319

            DrLeadFoot said:

            If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

            If you're going for big power go 24v.

            Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

            Mention of ditching EFI for carbs  and ditching M20 for 24v  

            all in one post.

            I cant handle this.

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #320

              Snap said:

              If you keep the M20 carbs would be a unique look. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67286940-NA-M20-with-TK-goodness

              If you're going for big power go 24v.

              Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

              Mention of ditching EFI for carbs  and ditching M20 for 24v  

              all in one post.

              I cant handle this.

              Haha. That post has Snap written all over it!

              Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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                   @DrLeadFoot

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              • R
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                Rowleym
                wrote on last edited by
                #321

                ClassE said:

                He means a runner angle like this:

                B85EC324-8042-4EAE-940A-FAC078BE8052.jpg

                Which would work best for NA if you can clear the booster (or delete it). Longer runners will give more torque in lower RPMs.

                I love this idea - I'm not sure it's a "whack it up and weld" kinda job - but I don't know your fab skills either. Regardless - if I stay M20 this is most likely course of action in fall!

                If Anyone has a CAD drawing of an m20 manifold flange, I could CNC a flange, and not use the stock stuff at all, but then I would also have to build injector bungs, and then it starts getting costy(for you guys). 

                I was going to use the stock manifold, and cut the flange, to try and keep the cost low for the people. And its damn easy. 

                But I do have material for 3 Intake manifolds for supercharged m50's currently

                I am adapting a gen 3 eaton m90 to 24v's, but I am also thinking about doing it to an e30 :) 

                But I do not have velocity stacks yet(wasn't going to use them with the supercharger) and I don't have those little bends. 

                But why did you say 130* snap?

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #322

                  Rowleym said:

                  But why did you say 130* snap? 

                  I was laying on my side while I posted that, now that I am right-side up, it would be more of a 60-70 degree bend.

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                  • ClassEC
                    ClassEC
                    ClassE
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #323

                    Started replacing front tie rods last night - didn't know BMW used a lock plate to hold the inner tie rods.... Which apparently needs to be replaced since you ruin them removing the originals.

                    So dealership will have some for me tomorrow - car sits until then. :( So no alignment before Saturday. No happy about it - but not super concerned either. Rear toe looks good, car tracks straight, camber is alittle off side-to-side but not enough to worry me for 200 miles.

                    After the GTG.... Time for some painting and coating in the bay before Scooters.

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #324

                      E36/Z3 does not use lock plates. 

                      I just used blue loctite on my Z3 rack and have had zero problems with it.

                      Ask anyone about what a sane and gentle driver I am and you will take comfort in knowing its kosher :D

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                      • EarlE
                        EarlE
                        Earl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #325

                        Snap said:

                        E36/Z3 does not use lock plates. 

                        I just used blue loctite on my Z3 rack and have had zero problems with it.

                        Ask anyone about what a sane and gentle driver I am and you will take comfort in knowing its kosher :D

                        My compact uses them 

                        http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CG53&mospid=47505&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25

                        It also looks like other e36's use them

                        http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG13&mospid=47485&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25

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                        • B
                          B
                          B C
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #326

                          None on the Z3 though

                          [http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CJ33&mospid=48094&btnr=32\_0630&hg=32&fg=25

                          I](http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CJ33&mospid=48094&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25) am using E30 tie rods with the Z3 rack, there is nothing special about the Z3 rack that would aid in tie-rod retention. 

                          The primary reason for the lock plate from my own observation is to keep the inner tie rod from loosening during an alignment. 

                          But take what I say as typical forum hearsay, I was not present in the ZF steering rack design meetings to be able to know the exact reasons why. 

                          Im not from here.

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                          • EarlE
                            EarlE
                            Earl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #327

                            lol I wasn't ripping on you Snap=) I trust your word over most things

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                            • B
                              B
                              B C
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #328

                              Oh I know, no rustlin over here. 

                              I want to make sure I am not feeding bad information so I do my best to backup what I say when there may be question

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                              • andyhundleyA
                                andyhundleyA
                                andyhundley
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #329

                                Earl and snap are going to fight to the death Saturday morning!

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                                • B
                                  B
                                  B C
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #330

                                  things get tense when your project isnt finished.

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                                  • ClassEC
                                    ClassEC
                                    ClassE
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #331

                                    "Snap said..."

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                                    • jc43089J
                                      jc43089J
                                      jc43089
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #332

                                      Just to throw in my 2 cents, my 2/94 e36 steering rack has lock plates.  If you are going with just loctite, make sure you get the threads clean with brakeclean or something so that the loctite actually works.

                                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                      • ClassEC
                                        ClassEC
                                        ClassE
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #333

                                        So replacement inner tie rod ends are "fatter", so not enough overhang to bend washer flanges down.... Nice.

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                                        • jc43089J
                                          jc43089J
                                          jc43089
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #334

                                          Eh, just giver!

                                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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