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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
    wrote on last edited by
    #580

    I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
      wrote on last edited by
      #581

      There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

      Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

      Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

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      • mkoeppM
        mkoeppM
        mkoepp
        wrote on last edited by
        #582

        jc43089 said:

        I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

        The base of the thread looks knurled too. That lock washer looks out of place.

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        • B
          B
          B C
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          #583

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            T
            tsweers89
            wrote on last edited by
            #584

            DrLeadFoot said:

            This might be in my future.

            http://store.vacmotorsports.com/harmonic-damper-bmw-m50-m52-m54--s50-us-s52-us-p756.aspx#

            Not something really needed with your set up but again once you are ready let me know. As usual I get these cheaper then VAC (aka vac overcharges on a lot of things)

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #585

              Snap said:

              WAY TOO SOON!!!! haha

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                   @DrLeadFoot

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
                wrote on last edited by
                #586

                GunMetalGrey said:

                There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

                Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

                Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

                I didn't build it and the shop "doesn't recall" what they did with the nut.

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                     @DrLeadFoot

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #587

                  Something is out of place with how that was done. Breaking shafts is no good no matter how you slice it! 

                  Pun intended

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #588

                    Some more carnage pics. The hole on the nut doesn't go all the way through.

                    ynyhe8am.jpg

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                    8ahu3emu.jpg

                    bypyhemy.jpg

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                         @DrLeadFoot

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                      B
                      B C
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                      #589

                      I am no expert,

                      but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

                      My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off.

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                      • patsbimmer1P
                        patsbimmer1P
                        patsbimmer1
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                        #590

                        Snap said:

                        I am no expert,

                        but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

                        My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off. 

                        Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

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                          B C
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #591

                          patsbimmer1 said:

                          Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

                          no, but im sure my bed is just as uncomfortable.

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #592

                            No dice on the GSR pump.

                            6u8yvume.jpg

                            I think I will get a replacement for the pump I already have and weld that nut.

                            With the savings I will more than likely get the harmonic dampener to try to calm down that engine and prevent anything else from rattling/snapping loose.

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                                 @DrLeadFoot

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                            • patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #593

                              If you ain't breakin' parts, you ain't makin' nuff powa!

                              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                              95 325is *sold*
                              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                              BMWCCA #473306

                              Instagram @patsbimmer1

                              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #594

                                If you ain't mixin' gas, you ain't hauling ass.

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                                You should see my weed whacker whack weeds.

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #595

                                  #6 bottom rod bearing. Looks good to me!

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                                       @DrLeadFoot

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                                    B
                                    B C
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #596

                                    Talk about a bearing relief

                                    hawhawhawhaw

                                    enginerd.jpg

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #597

                                      Snap said:

                                      Talk about a bearing relief

                                      hawhawhawhaw

                                      Gonna get 100% confirmation from my machinist right now.

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #598

                                        http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Upgraded-Oil-Pump-New-BMW-M-p/11-am-uopn.htm

                                        I just ordered this along with their oil pan baffle. 

                                        I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  While I was turning over the motor to pull the #6 rod bearing I noticed the bolt loosening while the crank was staying in the same place.  I'm glad I found this before it broke again.

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                                             @DrLeadFoot

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #599

                                          I'm also going to check all of my rod bearings for wear. Boris with the 8 second independent rear suspension e30 talked me into it.

                                          He said the ARP bolts need to be torqued to 43ft/lbs with the ARP torque lube. That's better than doing the 25ft/lbs then turned an additional 55 degrees that K1 told me to do.

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                                               @DrLeadFoot

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