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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • B
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    #1101

    I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. 

    They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me.

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    • DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFoot
      wrote on last edited by
      #1102

      Rowleym said:

      http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

      They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

      But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. 

      I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head.

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           @DrLeadFoot

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      • R
        R
        Rowleym
        wrote on last edited by
        #1103

        Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well.

        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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        sk8 or die

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        • R
          R
          Rowleym
          wrote on last edited by
          #1104

          I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution.

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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          • DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFoot
            wrote on last edited by
            #1105

            Time me. And go!!eeaa3d8c6880ddb6243e49a117ba83fa.jpg

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                 @DrLeadFoot

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            • B
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              wrote on last edited by
              #1106

              hut hut hike!

              1alligator2alligator3alligator4alligator5alligator

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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
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                #1107

                Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? 
                I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway.

                ...

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                • DrLeadFootD
                  DrLeadFootD
                  DrLeadFoot
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1108

                  Camshaft time.. oh goodness

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                       @DrLeadFoot

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    #1109

                    Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1110

                      None broken. No tools used except for an 11mm and a Cresent Wrench.

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                           @DrLeadFoot

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                      • KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRolls
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                        #1111

                        God damn that harbor freight life is everywhere!

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                        • DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFoot
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1112

                          The head gasket replacement journey.

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                          Keeping organized.
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                          Too much wear?
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                          I can feel this one with my fingernail.
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                          Now I just need to disconnect my downpipe and remove the ARP head bolts and see the carnage.

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                               @DrLeadFoot

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                          • jc43089J
                            jc43089J
                            jc43089
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1113

                            No excuses! I replaced the headgasket and had everything back on except the exhaust on a Saturday, a week before I got married actually.

                            Good work, I have an extra set of caps if you need some.

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                            • DrLeadFootD
                              DrLeadFootD
                              DrLeadFoot
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1114

                              Question. If some show some wear do I need new caps, carrier and cam? I feel one journal with my fingernail...

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                                   @DrLeadFoot

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                              • B
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                                B C
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1115

                                It is doubtful that you would have much success with other bearing caps since they are machined as a unit with the head and even running the caps that are mounted in the wrong location (originally machined for exhaust cam bearing #3 but using it on intake cam bearing #3) can be problematic

                                When I was 17 I found this out the hard way when using a bearing cap from another engine and not being able to turn the engine over even with the bearing cap well under-torqued at 15ft-lb.

                                I would scotch brite the scuff lightly to help knock down the edge a little and just not worry about it remembering that even at 7000 rpm your cams are only turning 3500 and arent under nearly the same load as the bearings on the crank.

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                                • GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGrey
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1116

                                  Man that is nasty! Looks like a milkshake that I would not be interested in drinking!

                                  ...

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                                  • DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFoot
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1117

                                    It wasn't all that bad from other pictures I've seen.

                                    I talked to John and ECS and he said he has sold hundreds of these head gaskets and hasn't had one customer come back with a complaint.

                                    Link to head gasket info: http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                                    Oil cooler ideas w/ links.

                                    Oil cooler cap: http://www.rallyroad.net/content/oil-cooler-cap

                                    Thermostat: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-22-480/overview/

                                    Cooler(s): https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=2350

                                           - Not sure of what to do with the cooler size.  I haven't measured anything yet but thinking I could run two of the smaller Canton coolers in tandem behind and to the left and right of the kidney.

                                    Or do I just go S54 oil cooler and call it a day?

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                                         @DrLeadFoot

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1118

                                      Ideas of where to mount another gauge?  Don't want to do the A-pillar.

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • wasnt m3W
                                        wasnt m3W
                                        wasnt m3
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1119

                                        I don't know if it would work but the upper center vent would be a prime spot in an e30. I've also heard great things about the CES cutring gaskets.

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1120

                                          wasnt m3 said:

                                          I don't know if it would work but the upper center vent would be a prime spot in an e30. I've also heard great things about the CES cutring gaskets.

                                          I'm probably going to go with a single gauge in the left center vent.

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                                               @DrLeadFoot

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