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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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    Rowleym
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    #1096

    I gotta wonder why you wouldn't go with a cut ring gasket or o rings? And do you have any logs? Did you ever get rid of that richness? 

    I would definitely borrow a nice caliper and measure if those bad boys stretched. I'm kind of excited to see what the pistons look like.

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    • patsbimmer1P
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      patsbimmer1
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      From what I can see there is no need to re-tighten the head bolts on the engine.  Not according to the replacement and torque procedure at least.

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      • DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFootD
        DrLeadFoot
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        #1098

        There is hardly any room between the 87mm cylinders. Not sure if I can o-ring it

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        • DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFoot
          wrote on last edited by
          #1099

          I'm still running rich. It drops into the 10s at 4-6k

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            Rowleym
            wrote on last edited by
            #1100

            http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

            They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

            But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier.

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              B
              B C
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              #1101

              I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. 

              They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me.

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
                wrote on last edited by
                #1102

                Rowleym said:

                http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html

                They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C

                But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. 

                I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head.

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                  Rowleym
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1103

                  Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well.

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                    Rowleym
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1104

                    I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution.

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                    • DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFootD
                      DrLeadFoot
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                      #1105

                      Time me. And go!!eeaa3d8c6880ddb6243e49a117ba83fa.jpg

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                      • B
                        B
                        B C
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                        #1106

                        hut hut hike!

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                        • GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGrey
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                          #1107

                          Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? 
                          I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway.

                          ...

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
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                            #1108

                            Camshaft time.. oh goodness

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #1109

                              Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak

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                              • DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFoot
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1110

                                None broken. No tools used except for an 11mm and a Cresent Wrench.

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  #1111

                                  God damn that harbor freight life is everywhere!

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                                  • DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFoot
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1112

                                    The head gasket replacement journey.

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                                    Keeping organized.
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                                    Too much wear?
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                                    I can feel this one with my fingernail.
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                                    Now I just need to disconnect my downpipe and remove the ARP head bolts and see the carnage.

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                                         @DrLeadFoot

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                                    • jc43089J
                                      jc43089J
                                      jc43089
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1113

                                      No excuses! I replaced the headgasket and had everything back on except the exhaust on a Saturday, a week before I got married actually.

                                      Good work, I have an extra set of caps if you need some.

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1114

                                        Question. If some show some wear do I need new caps, carrier and cam? I feel one journal with my fingernail...

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                                          B C
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1115

                                          It is doubtful that you would have much success with other bearing caps since they are machined as a unit with the head and even running the caps that are mounted in the wrong location (originally machined for exhaust cam bearing #3 but using it on intake cam bearing #3) can be problematic

                                          When I was 17 I found this out the hard way when using a bearing cap from another engine and not being able to turn the engine over even with the bearing cap well under-torqued at 15ft-lb.

                                          I would scotch brite the scuff lightly to help knock down the edge a little and just not worry about it remembering that even at 7000 rpm your cams are only turning 3500 and arent under nearly the same load as the bearings on the crank.

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