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M20 Turbo => M50 turbo fun.

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    Rowleym
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    Thanks for the input. If you were me, would you do the swap? I want to be drifting with this car, and also track days. Around 350whp or 400bhp. Trying to keep it semi reliable.

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      B C
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      if you are like this guy and know what you are doing

      you could have yourself a reliable turbo m20 with little lag that screams on the track.

      A turbo M50 will make a little more power with less boost than an M20 and might be the better choice if you want to keep the internals stock.

      If it were me I would probably do the M20 just because I feel that if the heat of the turbo caused a cracked head or if the bottom end blew out, another healthy M20 engine could be dropped in for hardly anything.

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      • YoungCRY
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        YoungCR
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        #102

        badass!

        Chris Young
        BMWCCA #458972
        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          Rowleym
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          #103

          Aaah. So I have to pay 800$ for my sisters laptop to be fixed. I really need some persuasion. Is there any stock piston/rod/crank setup that would get me some damn low cr? Like around 7? Still might go m50 but I don't know yet.

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          • Brian.B
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            Brian.
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            #104

            That blow off valve in the video, sounds queer as fuck.

            @ Mitch, good job dipshit! I might be up next week. I'll keep you posted.

            instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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              Rowleym
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              #105

              Little update. Bought a m50nv. 130k on it supposedly. Need to track down an oil pan and stuff. Also sold my hx35 to GunMetalGrey, and he gave me a swap brace. Pretty excited. Cool dude.

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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
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                #106

                I never even caught your name!

                Sent from the future. Or my phone, who knows.

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                • YoungCRY
                  YoungCRY
                  YoungCR
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                  #107

                  so whats the plan now? Between you and Ben its hard to keep track! Y'all change motor ideas every other day :P

                  Chris Young
                  BMWCCA #458972
                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #108

                    Lol, I don't know if that was a good thing or bad!

                    I'm set on the m50 turbo now, so have no fear!

                    Sent from the future. Or my phone, who knows.

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                      Nick_08
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                      I'm a little late on this post but, a stock m20 with stock head gasket, ARP's, stock intake manifold, and hx35 12cm will easily give you 400+ whp (with a good tune)...

                      It's proven to handle 1 bar (350whp) all day long.

                      If you grenade it, no big deal.

                      Also, TB size doesn't really matter when FI. Most either o-ring or weld, m20's weak point is the head gasket pushing out into the coolant channel. Specifically cylinder #6 (hottest). Unless you plan on detonating, you wont get far.

                      GL with your new m50.

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #110

                        M20 on a stock head gasket will not make 400HP, nor will one without built internals, they take a little bit of boost alright but they don't make much power per lb of boost.

                        Sent from the future. Or my phone, who knows.

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                        • Ryan...R
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                          Ryan...
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                          #111

                          If he's got the same car as I last remember, Nick's been running a boosted M20 for some years now. I dont remember the details anymore, but I almost bought a kit off him in like 08 for my bronzit sedan :D

                          2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                          2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                            Nick_08
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                            #112

                            GunMetalGrey said:

                            M20 on a stock head gasket will not make 400HP, nor will one without built internals, they take a little bit of boost alright but they don't make much power per lb of boost.

                            Sent from the future. Or my phone, who knows.

                            Not trying to thread jack OP I'm also not sure if it's against the rules to link another forum but here goes...

                            Here is just one instance. I know he isn't using the stock head gasket but he is using shitty MB head bolts AND stock internals...93 octane.

                            Stock motor w/ 208k miles.

                            head was rebuilt @ 185k (valve job minor port cleanup stock cam/springs)

                            Metrick Blue bolts and Cometic MLS

                            boosted for over 20k.

                            437whp/380ftlbs on 20psi

                            http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112167

                            This thread has a couple turbocharged m20's (with dyno charts) slightly different setups. A lot of them have stock m20's pushing 400whp easily.

                            http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113066&highlight=m20+turbo+dyno&page=2

                            It's been done and proven...

                            Again OP, GL with your build.

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                            • YoungCRY
                              YoungCRY
                              YoungCR
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                              #113

                              Nick_08 said:

                              Not trying to thread jack OP I'm also not sure if it's against the rules to link another forum but here goes...

                              Rules? What rules? :rolleyes: We're all about spreading the knowledge, thanks for sharing the links. Those are impressive numbers. Would like to see some videos of those cars in action.

                              Chris Young
                              BMWCCA #458972
                              1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                Nick_08
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                                M20B27eta said:

                                Rules? What rules? :rolleyes: We're all about spreading the knowledge, thanks for sharing the links. Those are impressive numbers. Would like to see some videos of those cars in action.

                                If you read BobRoss' thread he has plenty of dyno and street kill vids ;). Here: http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1307822&postcount=65

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                                • Brian.B
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                                  Brian.
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                                  http://youtu.be/KU3hKNWCy8c

                                  M30 turbo>M20. Just saying. I know you got your M50 with big penor power. But either way.

                                  instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                                  • YoungCRY
                                    YoungCRY
                                    YoungCR
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                                    #116

                                    Brian said:

                                    http://youtu.be/KU3hKNWCy8c

                                    M30 turbo>M20. Just saying. I know you got your M50 with big penor power. But either way.

                                    Dat shit cray

                                    Chris Young
                                    BMWCCA #458972
                                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                    • Brian.B
                                      Brian.B
                                      Brian.
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                                      That m30 fuckin rips. And sounds amazing

                                      instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                                        Rowleym
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                                        Im totally not against m20's in anyway, and I'm totally open to constructive thread jacking. Thanks funny. I had an hx35 12cm and literally everything else to turbo my m20, but for some reason, I went m50. I think basically because for the future, I want to be making big power, and I think that the m50nv is a pretty good base to start? I also like higher revving engines. Welding my head+Oring was over 400$ at my machine shop. Not only that, but I had to pull the engine anyway, so why not buy an m50 for 300$? All i have to do is arps, and mls for a decent 400. I dont know. I'm not saying anyone was right or wrong.

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          #119

                                          A LOT of other stuff goes with putting in a turbo, I have a pretty good link selection going on right now for all the feed lines, oil blocks, return lines, fittings, injectors, all kinds of crazy freaking suff.

                                          If you have any questions with the swap or anything else for that matter do let me know, I have done it a few times now ;)

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