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  • retoropakR
    retoropakR
    retoropak
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    #38

    And intake is almost done. All tack welded and ready to be finished. I got some 1/4" plate to do the end cap and to add some reinforcemnt for vacuum fittings.

    I will use bosh motorsports dbw throttle body. I am shooting for anything between 350-500whp. I think that 68mm throttle should do. The next size up is 82mm but I worry it will be too twitchy and drivability will suck. 

    Holesaw setup to cut 3" holes for trumpets

    Holesaw

    A little mockup with two runners to check the position of the plenum

    Intake

    All 4 runners in. 

    Intake

    Intake

    Intake

    Fuel Rail

    Intake

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    • P_RoloffP
      P_RoloffP
      P_Roloff
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      #39

      Holy smokes, this is cool. That intake looks awesome, super excited to see that come to fruition. How is the throttle body going to be mounted, out the end of the manifold towards the front of the car or out of the side like an OEM one?

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      • m42b32M
        m42b32M
        m42b32
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        #40

        This is awesome! A 350hp+ M42 is going to be a riot.

        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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        • retoropakR
          retoropakR
          retoropak
          wrote on last edited by
          #41

          P_Roloff said:

          Holy smokes, this is cool. That intake looks awesome, super excited to see that come to fruition. How is the throttle body going to be mounted, out the end of the manifold towards the front of the car or out of the side like an OEM one?

          Throttle will be in front of the manifold.

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          • retoropakR
            retoropakR
            retoropak
            wrote on last edited by
            #42

            I welded up the manifold. It was a pain. My 200amp tig had some trouble welding 1/4" plenum with the trumpets. Trumpets were quite thick with some sections close to 1/2" or more. I could use 50amps more.
            I added fuel rail brackets and end cap. I also ordered bosch motorsports 68mm DBW throttle. I still need to get the weld-on flange for this throttle.

            I ditched floor mounted pedals and get hanging pedal setup. I whipped new firewall plate and added the e36 column mount

            Helmut

            Helmut

            Helmut

            Helmut

            Helmut

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            • YoungCRY
              YoungCRY
              YoungCR
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              #43

              Nice work on the firewall plate

              Chris Young
              BMWCCA #458972
              1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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              • retoropakR
                retoropakR
                retoropak
                wrote on last edited by
                #44

                Pedal box is done.

                Helmut

                Helmut

                I got my throttle body flange. I use 68mm Bosch motorsports TB. Its funny that you cant get that flange in the states. I had to order one from Sweden. 

                Helmut

                Helmut

                Helmut

                Helmut

                I ordered my eBay intercooler. 12x18x3" core. Should be plenty to support my power goals.

                Next week will be finishing some bracketry and I should be ready to prep it for paint.

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                • retoropakR
                  retoropakR
                  retoropak
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #45

                  I got my fleabay Intercooler it supposed to e 3" core. Well  it is not. Its a 2.5" and has some shitty spoolgun welds.. I am not even mad I will just return it and get another cheapo intercooler hoping it will be a bit better. Anyone know ebay sellers/brands that might have decent 3" intercoolers? My 12x12 ebay intercooler that i got couple years back look much better with decent welds and nice looking 3" core. 

                  I made upper radiator mount/ shroud/ intercooler mount. 

                  Front frame rail  brace might come handy. The e21 chassis flexes a lot. I will most likely use this brace as a mounting point for the skid plate

                  Strut tower brace will be next. 

                  I also got my e90 gas pedal. It should work really well. 

                  I started designing chassis electrical harness with my new fusebox. I got the inventory of all circuits including wire lenghts, colors, gauge and approximate splice locations.I will be ordering some tefzel wiring sometime next week.

                  I had a bit of an issue with clutch master fitting in the bay, So I had to expand the bay a little bit. Half a pound of seam sealer and some epoxy primer and it will look beautiful

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                  • retoropakR
                    retoropakR
                    retoropak
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #46

                    I got a monstercooler today. I think it is a bit too much @  24x12x4" core. It fits though but I think I will swap it for something a bit smaller. It will take an hour for the turbo to fill this thing with air. I think transient response may suffer a bit.  It might require some pie cutting to connect to throttle body.

                    Intercooler

                    Intercooler

                    Intercooler

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                    • retoropakR
                      retoropakR
                      retoropak
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #47

                      After couple of weeks of engine bay paint prep. I am ready to paint it. I build a beautiful spray booth in my garage with two box fans and shoot some epoxy primer followed by some seam sealer and more epoxy. Today i will finish it with single stage urethane in original safari beige.

                      I got the intercooler figured out. Wiring is next on the list.

                      HelmutHelmut

                      Helmut

                      Helmut

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                      • YoungCRY
                        YoungCRY
                        YoungCR
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #48

                        Always inspiring to see these diy paint set ups. Can’t wait to see the final results!

                        Chris Young
                        BMWCCA #458972
                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                        • SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlue
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                          #49

                          Using an easy up as a paint booth frame is a great idea.

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                            gilber33
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                            #50

                            SteelBlue said:

                            Using an easy up as a paint booth frame is a great idea. 

                            It certainly is. I'm really annoyed that I spent the time and money building one when I have one.

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                            • retoropakR
                              retoropakR
                              retoropak
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #51

                              I were going to build one then i figured that I can set up the canopy thing outside but I got some stupid neighbors who would certainly call code enforcement cops so decided to move it inside. 

                              Paint came out great. Engine bays are not my favorite thig to spray. There are bunch of angles, crevices and spots that are hard to get. I got couple of spots with that dry spray texture. I did not bother using a tack cloth after I preped the bare metal so there is bunch dust spots. Its good enough tho for the engine bay.

                              The floor around the drivers side torque box rusted out so this will get fixed next. I need to paint the driveshaft center bearing supports and diff mounts. Also will get the rear fender lips touched up since they cracked pretty badly when I pulled the fenders. 

                              Helmut

                              Helmut

                              Helmut

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                              • retoropakR
                                retoropakR
                                retoropak
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                                #52

                                Pedals are done. 

                                Dual master ready to be plumbed. I am using stok e36 325i front brakes and stock 528i e28 rears. Front master is tilton 0.7" and rear is .75". Clutch is wilwood .75" I must say that Tiltons look much beefier and beter quality than wilwoods. 

                                I bolted front and rear suspension and set the car on jenga blocks. I need to order new brake line flaring tool since cheapo amazon one crapped out on the second try.

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                                • YoungCRY
                                  YoungCRY
                                  YoungCR
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #53

                                  This is the same one Eastwood sells and I highly recommend it, perfect flares every time. There are few other brands listed on amazon with the same thing a well and available with prime shipping but I got the K Tool years ago. 

                                  K Tool International Brake Line Flaring Tool, 45 Degree Set. Single, Double, and Bubble Flares, Vise-Mounted, T-Handle Screw Clamp

                                  Chris Young
                                  BMWCCA #458972
                                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                  • retoropakR
                                    retoropakR
                                    retoropak
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #54

                                    YoungCR said:

                                    This is the same one Eastwood sells and I highly recommend it, perfect flares every time. There are few other brands listed on amazon with the same thing a well and available with prime shipping but I got the K Tool years ago. 

                                    K Tool International Brake Line Flaring Tool, 45 Degree Set. Single, Double, and Bubble Flares, Vise-Mounted, T-Handle Screw Clamp

                                    Yup just ordered it from amazon it is a TGR brand but otherwise looks the same.

                                    What is the preferred way of doing fuel lines? 

                                    I got enough -6AN PTFE hose to run both supply and return but I thought that maybe going with stainless hardline would be a better option.

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                                    • retoropakR
                                      retoropakR
                                      retoropak
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #55

                                      h my that is what happen when you have 4 other projects ehm ehm. kids, wife and house and poor bimmer had to wait again. Oh well I got a bit of motivation so I will try to keep the momentum going. Vintage 2023 I am coming 😛

                                      It is wiring time. I ordered bunch of tefzel wire a while ago but could not get myself to start the wiring process.

                                      And of course when i started checking circuits and what wires I will need I found that I forgot to order roughly 20-30% of needed wires.
                                      I fixed that and I am getting the remainder tomorrow.

                                      Since I could not continue wiring for about a week focused on other things. Fuel tank was partially modified (read cut but not welded), so i tackled that. I will run just the right side tank (measures roughly 7.5 gallons). Range will be amazing escpecially on e85. Space left after the left tank will be occupied by the exhaust.

                                      Don't mind my ugly welds it doesn't leak  and its temporary until I get the fuel cell

                                      I also got the main power feed done. It is 1/0 splitting into 3x 4 gauge. Black thingy is the main 70A relay that will power up the "run" bus of the fusebox

                                      I painted front calipers black and inspected rear e28 calipers that I sourced from the lemons e28. Rears will need rebuild which will be done as soon as I get my rebuild kit from rockauto.

                                      This week I will try to finish fuel lines (6AN ptfe for that corn juice power) and continue the wiring challenge.

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                                      • YoungCRY
                                        YoungCRY
                                        YoungCR
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                                        #56

                                        Thanks for the wiring source! I had trouble finding oem style colored wiring last time I looked.

                                        Chris Young
                                        BMWCCA #458972
                                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                        • retoropakR
                                          retoropakR
                                          retoropak
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #57

                                          Electrical work is progressing well. I decided to abandon the Littlefuse integrated fusebox and build my own using TE fuseboxes. It allowed me to bus the power to the components the way I wanted.

                                          I left the original rear harness and terminated it with the 20 pin deutsch connector. It will connect to the front harness.

                                          Body harness is 90% complete. Almost everything under the hood is done. I am still adding some wires under dashboard for gauge power, glovebox lights or radio power and finishing up some grounds. It should be ready this week.
                                          I get the set of cheapo rock auto parts e28 axles , brake discs and some pagid brake pads. I also got the gasket set for the m42. 

                                          I got a set of cheapest VAG coils of amazon to see how they fit. I think i will whip something to retain the coils. Once that thing moves out of garage under it own power and suspension aligns I will replace all el cheapo parts with something of better quality. 

                                          I spent some bucks on the Radium FPR and it fits beautifully with the nuke fuel rail.

                                          Next:

                                          Finish the fuel system: I got PTFE lines and fpr AND now its time for Flex fuel sensor and some AN fittings

                                          Finish the steering: I ordered woodward u-joints and will need to whip a steering shaft. I still have to mount the column in final position. And lastly will need to sort the tie rod situation. I am thinking shorted e90 inners and e36 outers? 

                                          Engine: I have a second m42 which was sitting (covered) outside for almost 3 years. Damn squirrel lived in that thing for two years before I chased her out of there and sprayed 2 cans of pb blaster into the motor. It made very interesting, kind of crunchy noises when turning so I am pretty sure that it will work great. I got a gasket set for it  and I am ready to dingleberry the shit out of the cylinders if needed and re-ring the pistons.

                                          Who knows maybe it will  make it to the Vintage 😛 

                                          Beginning of the new fusebox

                                          Helmut

                                          New fusebox

                                          Helmut

                                          And the guts : power first

                                          Elektryka

                                          And the outputs

                                          Elektryka

                                          Radlok for incoming power: This thing is well........... very rad. Possibly best power connector I've seen so far

                                          Helmut

                                          Elektryka

                                          Finished product with chassis harness attached. Still need to shrink the boots but first will need to test and verify all circuits. I already found horn connected to the radiator fan output and vice versa. Hooooooonk you overheated 😁

                                          Elektryka

                                          FPR. works really well with Nuke rail. Looks like this part was meant for m42 with my manifold

                                          ElektrykaElektryka

                                          Chinesium coils

                                          HelmutHelmut

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