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    gilber33
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    SteelBlue said:

    $200 is not bad for OEM refurbed one. 
     

    Does anyone know the difference between years for the racks? They have a 95, then a 96-97, and then a 98-99. The 96-97 is the best priced option and I believe the one that I pulled from @ChrisO’s car.

    They're website is a little confusing because they make it seem like all the racks are different between years when I don't believe they are. Also, I didn't know the e46 racks are also a direct fit and the purple tag "club sport" racks have a 3 turn lock to lock. Rack Doctor has those for the same price (just have to pay the core charge upfront). 

    Edit: Ordered a purple tag e46 rack. $337 shipped - $18 of which is a return label for my rack and $100 core charge. So $219 for a rebuilt rack. Pretty great.

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    • SteelBlueS
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      SteelBlue
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      gilber33 said:

      They're website is a little confusing because they make it seem like all the racks are different between years when I don't believe they are. Also, I didn't know the e46 racks are also a direct fit and the purple tag "club sport" racks have a 3 turn lock to lock. Rack Doctor has those for the same price (just have to pay the core charge upfront). 

      I was looking for the purple tag ones under the Z3, but I think I was mistaken. Purple tag is E46, while the Z3 is the 1.9 or something turn to lock? 
       

      Regardless, the purple tag was what I was looking for. It’s also $200? With the core charge up front, however?

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        gilber33
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        SteelBlue said:

        I was looking for the purple tag ones under the Z3, but I think I was mistaken. Purple tag is E46, while the Z3 is the 1.9 or something turn to lock? 
         

        Regardless, the purple tag was what I was looking for. It’s also $200? With the core charge up front, however?

        Correct. See above. Just ordered that one. 

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        And then selected the return label which added $18. Which I feel like is a lot cheaper than it would be if I were to print my own return label.

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        • SteelBlueS
          SteelBlueS
          SteelBlue
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          #873

          gilber33 said:

          Correct. See above. Just ordered that one. 

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          And then selected the return label which added $18. Which I feel like is a lot cheaper than it would be if I were to print my own return label. 

          Nice. Are you currently using the stock rack? This is definitely something I want to do in the future.

          Swapping the rack with the motor out is easy, not sure about in the car. Biggest PITA I could see would be getting the steering shaft and rack splines to line up and get it "all the way on". Is your car non-airbag? Shouldn't need additions on the steering shaft for non-airbag.

          Curious to see how it goes for you.

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            gilber33
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            SteelBlue said:

            Nice. Are you currently using the stock rack? This is definitely something I want to do in the future.

            Swapping the rack with the motor out is easy, not sure about in the car. Biggest PITA I could see would be getting the steering shaft and rack splines to line up and get it "all the way on". Is your car non-airbag? Shouldn't need additions on the steering shaft for non-airbag.

            Curious to see how it goes for you.

            I have an e36 rack in there now that I did when I first got the car. However, it was a random ebay rack that was like $80. So, I guess I'm not surprised.

            From what I read, with the engine in the car you bend the lower mounting tabs for the rack down and it should just drop out then. I do not have an airbag, which made things easier. But the absolute hardest part I could see when swapping the racks with the engine in is removing the steering knuckle for the spacer and reinstalling that. That was a PITA while being able to sit in the engine bay.

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            • P_RoloffP
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              P_Roloff
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              #875

              gilber33 said:

              I have an e36 rack in there now that I did when I first got the car. However, it was a random ebay rack that was like $80. So, I guess I'm not surprised.

              From what I read, with the engine in the car you bend the lower mounting tabs for the rack down and it should just drop out then. I do not have an airbag, which made things easier. But the absolute hardest part I could see when swapping the racks with the engine in is removing the steering knuckle for the spacer and reinstalling that. That was a PITA while being able to sit in the engine bay. 

              When I did the front suspension on the e30 last summer, I dropped the rack and resealed it while I was in there. I had to bend the tabs down to get the rack out, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. I used a big flathead screwdriver in the gap in the splined coupler and the rack came out without much issue. Definitely easier with two people, for both install and removal, one holding the rack and the other holding the coupler and prying it open.

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              • SteelBlueS
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                SteelBlue
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                Yeah, the coupler portion was what I was trying to refer to as the most difficult part of the process. Couldn't think of what it was called.

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                  gilber33
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                  P_Roloff said:

                  When I did the front suspension on the e30 last summer, I dropped the rack and resealed it while I was in there. I had to bend the tabs down to get the rack out, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. I used a big flathead screwdriver in the gap in the splined coupler and the rack came out without much issue. Definitely easier with two people, for both install and removal, one holding the rack and the other holding the coupler and prying it open.

                  That's good to hear that it wasn't too bad. Just glancing at it it looks nearly impossible to do with the engine in the car. I'm going to pull it in the garage tonight and will hopefully be able to remove it pretty quickly.

                  I'm also swapping out the Bosch/Behr AC compressor with a Seiko unit. My Behr compressor is on the do not fly list for r134 compatible compressors.

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                  • SteelBlueS
                    SteelBlueS
                    SteelBlue
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                    gilber33 said:

                    I'm also swapping out the Bosch/Behr AC compressor with a Seiko unit.

                    Like the watch company? lol

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                      gilber33
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                      SteelBlue said:

                      Like the watch company? lol

                      Exactly. It tells time and cools the cabin.

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                        gilber33
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                        With the car in the air, it was very notchy. With the car off it had the exact same feel. Took off the belt for the PS pump and it felt like it had some resistance when I spun it. With it having the same feeling with the car on or off I feel like I can rule out the pump. I spun the rack by hand on the steering knuckle and there was no visible binding on the joints, but it felt like the resistance was coming from the rack and not the universal joints. It felt like it would hit resistance below my hand before above it. So I’m pretty confident it’s the rack.

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                          gilber33
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                          So hopefully someone can give me some input here if this looks right. The top u joint has free motion back and forth in one direction and the other direction seems to be very limited and to get beyond that limited range of motion I have to give it some force. 

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                            straight6pwr
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                            #882

                            input: that u-joint is f*in toasted.

                            Dan
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                              gilber33
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                              #883

                              straight6pwr said:

                              input: that u-joint is f*in toasted. 

                              Well, allllllrighty then. And the OEM coupler assembly seems to not be available anymore.

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                              • KaiserRollsK
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                                KaiserRolls
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                                #884

                                When the steering shaft is bolted to the rack, is the circled area fouling on one another when you turn the steering wheel? 
                                 

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                                  gilber33
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                                  KaiserRolls said:

                                  When the steering shaft is bolted to the rack, is the circled area fouling on one another when you turn the steering wheel? 
                                   

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                                  It is not. I looked carefully for that because I know you have to grind out some material on there when you do the rack swap. The video might now be showing up (at least it's not for me) but I tested  both directions of motion for that joint and one direction was very smooth and seemed to have full motion and the other direction had very, very little free motion and anything outside of this small window of movement required a lot of force.

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                                  • JdesignJ
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                                    Jdesign
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                                    #886

                                    I would find a used replacement, or opt for a flaming river U joint.

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                                      gilber33
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                                      Jdesign said:

                                      I would find a used replacement, or opt for a flaming river U joint.

                                      I have decided that I’m going to avoid used parts whenever possible. The seem to be too much of a gamble. Went with the Condor solid steering joint.

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                                      • jc43089J
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                                        jc43089
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                                        Solid choice.

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                                          gilber33
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                                          #889

                                          Solid burn. 

                                          Now that I read that back, solid joint is pretty contradictory. 
                                           

                                          While I wait for the Rack Doctor to ship my rack that I ordered over a week ago, I swapped these in and they were plug and play, so that was neat. 

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