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  • straight6pwrS
    straight6pwrS
    straight6pwr
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    jc43089 said:

    If the housings were designed for halogen then HID bulbs may have a poor light pattern.  The Depo lights on my e36 have better output and cut off with H1 halogen bulbs that they were designed for.  Now a proper HID projector housing with HID is going to be better still but my point is that it isn't as simple as "HID is always better".

    e30 projector headlights are WAY better with HID bulbs. if HID bulbs in your e36 depos were worse than the H1 bulbs, you just had crap HID bulbs. there is no difference in the light 'physics' between the way a HID bulb and a halogen works - they are both point source. yes, new HID projector bowls take greater advantage of the extra light, but thats besides the point.  I agree HID is not always better, but when it comes to 80s/90s BMW projectors, they are.

    Dan
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      gilber33
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      Two questions:

      Where does this ground go? 

      And what is this plug for? I found it bundled up by the DS strut tower. 

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      • jc43089J
        jc43089J
        jc43089
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        straight6pwr said:

        e30 projector headlights are WAY better with HID bulbs. if HID bulbs in your e36 depos were worse than the H1 bulbs, you just had crap HID bulbs. there is no difference in the light 'physics' between the way a HID bulb and a halogen works - they are both point source. yes, new HID projector bowls take greater advantage of the extra light, but thats besides the point.  I agree HID is not always better, but when it comes to 80s/90s BMW projectors, they are.

        That is quite possible that the HID setup in my e36 was junk quality bulbs/ballasts.  They had no name on them which is usually an indicator...  Good to know that was my issue.

        The Depo projectors are better than stock e36 US lights but still not fantastic.  I want to do a retrofit to a quality projector but family budget things...

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        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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        • JdesignJ
          JdesignJ
          Jdesign
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          gilber33 said:

          Two questions:

          Where does this ground go? 

          And what is this plug for? I found it bundled up by the DS strut tower. 

          Not sure were is that ground coming from? Directly from the battery? If so that should go directly to the block.

          That plug looks to be one for the brake pad sensors/liners

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            gilber33
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            Jdesign said:

            Not sure were is that ground coming from? Directly from the battery? If so that should go directly to the block.

            That plug looks to be one for the brake pad sensors/liners

            The ground is coming through the firewall, so I assume it must be coming from the battery. I'll look for a spot where it naturally wants to "fall".

            Oh, didn't know this car had brake pad sensors. I guess I'll keep it bunched up there for now.

            Thanks!

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            • straight6pwrS
              straight6pwrS
              straight6pwr
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              gilber33 said:

              Oh, didn't know this car had brake pad sensors. I guess I'll keep it bunched up there for now.

              many e30 guys just connect the two sensor wires and stop using the sensors. they can be finicky and the wires in the wheel well can corrode/break, so its easier to stop using them.

              Dan
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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
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                I would verify that the cable in question is indeed a ground, because it looks all too much like the positive battery cable for a starter. It has the same style blade and all. 
                I know that they are classically on the chassis harness, but it just strikes me as odd.

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                  gilber33
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                  GunMetalGrey said:

                  I would verify that the cable in question is indeed a ground, because it looks all too much like the positive battery cable for a starter. It has the same style blade and all. 
                  I know that they are classically on the chassis harness, but it just strikes me as odd. 

                  I think you're right. Damn. I vividly remember only bolting on one large red cable on the post (in addition to the two smaller cables on their individual posts). All the images I can find of the starter on the e30 shows two large cables on the same post; one being a large black cable. That red cable must be going to the alternator.

                  That would have been a really frustrating thing to diagnose. Good catch!

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                  • JdesignJ
                    JdesignJ
                    Jdesign
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                    Yea I would assume its a the starter cable. I just assume that since you said ground that it was one. 😉

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                      gilber33
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                      Jdesign said:

                       Yea I would assume its a the starter cable. I just assume that since you said ground that it was one. 😉

                      I assumed it was a ground. On my past Volvos all the power leads were always red and grounds were black or blue.

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                        gilber33
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                        Put in the new swaybar last night. Godspeed off of Ebay for $90 shipped with Installation hardware. 

                        Old one was done I would say. Also, safe bet that's where most of the front end clunks were coming from. 

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                          gilber33
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                          Anyone know what this plug is for behind the glove box by the ECU? Putting the interior back together and I don't see where this one should plug in. 

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                          Getting really close to starting this. Transmission is filled with fresh MTL, clutch is bled, engine has oil. The setback came when I filled it up with coolant and the thermostat cover was seeping. The part that sucked was the radiator was so full of crud on the bottom the drain valve didn't even work so I had to drain it by just removing the thermostat cover. Then I pulled the radiator and flushed it. Tons of gross stuff in there. That's back in. Tonight or tomorrow I'll fill it back up and then try starting it. The battery is charging now.

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                          • YoungCRY
                            YoungCRY
                            YoungCR
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                            #153

                            I believe that is an extra maybe for autos? The car will run without it

                            Chris Young
                            BMWCCA #458972
                            1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                              gilber33
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                              YoungCR said:

                              I believe that is an extra maybe for autos? The car will run without it

                              Works for me! Thank you

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                                gilber33
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                                Okay, so it started up. Took some troubleshooting because I reversed the feed and return fuel lines. It sounded kinda gross at first but once it built oil pressure it sounded really good. 

                                Two things I am noticing right now. 

                                1. When I blip the throttle it kind of stumbles when the RPMs come back down. 

                                2. The temp gauge was creeping past the middle mark on the gauge after about 10 mins of idling on jack stands. It does not have an electric fan, but hasn't had one in who knows how long and it was fine. My thought is maybe the coolant system needs to be bled since it was COMPLETELY drained. 

                                Edit: Going to try adjusting the throttle body some to address the stumble.

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                                • P_RoloffP
                                  P_RoloffP
                                  P_Roloff
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                                  #156

                                  gilber33 said:

                                  Okay, so it started up. Took some troubleshooting because I reversed the feed and return fuel lines. It sounded kinda gross at first but once it built oil pressure it sounded really good. 

                                  Two things I am noticing right now. 

                                  1. When I blip the throttle it kind of stumbles when the RPMs come back down. 

                                  2. The temp gauge was creeping past the middle mark on the gauge after about 10 mins of idling on jack stands. It does not have an electric fan, but hasn't had one in who knows how long and it was fine. My thought is maybe the coolant system needs to be bled since it was COMPLETELY drained. 

                                  Edit: Going to try adjusting the throttle body some to address the stumble. 

                                  I’ve had issues with the same stumbling, although it was accompanied by a somewhat poor idle. Check for vacuum leaks and make sure the  throttle position sensor is adjusted correctly and work from there. What do you mean by adjusting the throttle body? I wouldn’t touch the adjustment screw, just make sure the cable isn’t sitting too tight so that it holds the throttle open slightly. That’ll screw with the TPS reading. 

                                  For cooling, I would definitely bleed it and then see what happens. If it was totally empty, there’s probably a good bit of air in there still.

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                                    gilber33
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                                    I meant adjust the cable and TPS if I need to.  

                                    And I did a lot more reading on bleeding the cooling system. I'm pretty sure that's what I need to do.

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                                      gilber33
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                                      Getting the interior cleaned up a little bit. Shampooed the carpets and have some new floor mats coming in addition to a factory parking brake handle to get rid of the M handle thingy. 

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                                        gilber33
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                                        Got the coolant system bled tonight. Some hot heat in the car. Also replaced the ebrake handle and new floor mats. 

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                                        One question I do have: each cold start up the engine was relatively loud, after a couple minutes it quieted down and sounded great. So I guess I'm wondering what you guys run for oil when its cooler out like this? I have Castrol 20w50 in it now per some other forums. But I did read that when it gets to these temps a 10 or 15w40 is recommended. I think I'm going to change the oil to a slightly thinner one and see if that helps.

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                                        • jc43089J
                                          jc43089J
                                          jc43089
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                                          Way too thick, the incorrect general internet advice is to run mega thick oil.  However the thicker the oil it may show high oil pressures on a gauge which people think is good but the oil pressure is not what keeps metal contact from happening.  Think about it this way, there is roughly one square inch of bearing area that a connecting rod journal forces down on.  If 60PSI is your maximum oil pressure, that is roughly what the pressure relief valve vents at, then it would only resist 60 pounds of force when combustion happens.  If you only have 60 pounds of force you aren't going anywhere.  Just from compression pressure say 150PSI x the area of the piston (3.5/2)2 x 3.14 = 9.6 square inches.  You end up with a force down of 9.6*150= 1440 pounds, and that is before combustion starts.

                                          The bearings in an engine work on the principle of hydrodynamic lubrication.  Which requires oil FLOW not PRESSURE.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_bearing

                                          TLDR: The ideal oil weight is thick enough to maintain oil pressure above minimum spec when the engine is idling and fully hot.  Usually a quality 5w30 is not a problem unless the engine is very worn.  I use 5w30 in my M50 that has almost 300k miles and I don't ever have a flicker on the oil pressure gauge.  Thick fluid is hard to pump and will not circulate as well causing a lack of lubrication, even worse when the weather is getting cool.  

                                          My recommendation is 5w30, use a 10w40 if you are paranoid and don't trust modern synthetic oil.  But never 20w50 no matter how much the internets say to, the noise you hear is a lack of lubrication.

                                          And FYI oil pressure spec at idle is only around 7 PSI.

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                                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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