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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
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    If the housings were designed for halogen then HID bulbs may have a poor light pattern.  The Depo lights on my e36 have better output and cut off with H1 halogen bulbs that they were designed for.  Now a proper HID projector housing with HID is going to be better still but my point is that it isn't as simple as "HID is always better".

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    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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      gilber33
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      The Full Banana said:

      Knowing your preference, which is pretty close to mine, I wouldn't go over 5000K if you try HIDs. That said, quality high-wattage halogen bulbs in quality housings with a good power source (aka: relayed harness with power direct from battery) can work very very well. There is a ton of variance in light output--it's definitely not just a question of HID vs halogen. 

      Also some cheap (eBay) manufacturers aren't exactly accurate with their representation of color temperature. I've purchased 5500K bulbs that were really more like 6500K. 

      I don't think I can do HIDs. Whenever I see a car that I know didn't have HIDs from the factory I go "ew, HIDs".

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      • The Full BananaT
        The Full BananaT
        The Full Banana
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        For 80s and earlier production cars, I totally agree.

        For my 242, I converted back to halogens with quality OSRAM bulbs in Hella euro housings powered by a relayed harness drawing directly from the battery. Light output and pattern are excellent. 

        That said, get your car driving and fix the lights later! 😛

        Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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          gilber33
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          The Full Banana said:

          For 80s and earlier production cars, I totally agree.

          In my 242, I converted back to halogens with quality OSRAM bulbs in Hella euro housings powered by a relayed harness drawing directly from the battery and light output and pattern is excellent.  

          That said, get your car driving and fix the lights later! 😛

          Get off my back.

          With that out of the way. Fixing the lights will be plug and play if I fix the housing or just get a new set and sell these. You'll have to show me how to do a relayed harness pulling power from the battery.

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          • straight6pwrS
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            jc43089 said:

            If the housings were designed for halogen then HID bulbs may have a poor light pattern.  The Depo lights on my e36 have better output and cut off with H1 halogen bulbs that they were designed for.  Now a proper HID projector housing with HID is going to be better still but my point is that it isn't as simple as "HID is always better".

            e30 projector headlights are WAY better with HID bulbs. if HID bulbs in your e36 depos were worse than the H1 bulbs, you just had crap HID bulbs. there is no difference in the light 'physics' between the way a HID bulb and a halogen works - they are both point source. yes, new HID projector bowls take greater advantage of the extra light, but thats besides the point.  I agree HID is not always better, but when it comes to 80s/90s BMW projectors, they are.

            Dan
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              gilber33
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              Two questions:

              Where does this ground go? 

              And what is this plug for? I found it bundled up by the DS strut tower. 

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
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                straight6pwr said:

                e30 projector headlights are WAY better with HID bulbs. if HID bulbs in your e36 depos were worse than the H1 bulbs, you just had crap HID bulbs. there is no difference in the light 'physics' between the way a HID bulb and a halogen works - they are both point source. yes, new HID projector bowls take greater advantage of the extra light, but thats besides the point.  I agree HID is not always better, but when it comes to 80s/90s BMW projectors, they are.

                That is quite possible that the HID setup in my e36 was junk quality bulbs/ballasts.  They had no name on them which is usually an indicator...  Good to know that was my issue.

                The Depo projectors are better than stock e36 US lights but still not fantastic.  I want to do a retrofit to a quality projector but family budget things...

                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                • JdesignJ
                  JdesignJ
                  Jdesign
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                  gilber33 said:

                  Two questions:

                  Where does this ground go? 

                  And what is this plug for? I found it bundled up by the DS strut tower. 

                  Not sure were is that ground coming from? Directly from the battery? If so that should go directly to the block.

                  That plug looks to be one for the brake pad sensors/liners

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                    gilber33
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                    Jdesign said:

                    Not sure were is that ground coming from? Directly from the battery? If so that should go directly to the block.

                    That plug looks to be one for the brake pad sensors/liners

                    The ground is coming through the firewall, so I assume it must be coming from the battery. I'll look for a spot where it naturally wants to "fall".

                    Oh, didn't know this car had brake pad sensors. I guess I'll keep it bunched up there for now.

                    Thanks!

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                    • straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwr
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                      gilber33 said:

                      Oh, didn't know this car had brake pad sensors. I guess I'll keep it bunched up there for now.

                      many e30 guys just connect the two sensor wires and stop using the sensors. they can be finicky and the wires in the wheel well can corrode/break, so its easier to stop using them.

                      Dan
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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
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                        I would verify that the cable in question is indeed a ground, because it looks all too much like the positive battery cable for a starter. It has the same style blade and all. 
                        I know that they are classically on the chassis harness, but it just strikes me as odd.

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                          gilber33
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                          GunMetalGrey said:

                          I would verify that the cable in question is indeed a ground, because it looks all too much like the positive battery cable for a starter. It has the same style blade and all. 
                          I know that they are classically on the chassis harness, but it just strikes me as odd. 

                          I think you're right. Damn. I vividly remember only bolting on one large red cable on the post (in addition to the two smaller cables on their individual posts). All the images I can find of the starter on the e30 shows two large cables on the same post; one being a large black cable. That red cable must be going to the alternator.

                          That would have been a really frustrating thing to diagnose. Good catch!

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                          • JdesignJ
                            JdesignJ
                            Jdesign
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                            Yea I would assume its a the starter cable. I just assume that since you said ground that it was one. 😉

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                              gilber33
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                              Jdesign said:

                               Yea I would assume its a the starter cable. I just assume that since you said ground that it was one. 😉

                              I assumed it was a ground. On my past Volvos all the power leads were always red and grounds were black or blue.

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                                gilber33
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                                Put in the new swaybar last night. Godspeed off of Ebay for $90 shipped with Installation hardware. 

                                Old one was done I would say. Also, safe bet that's where most of the front end clunks were coming from. 

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                                  gilber33
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                                  Anyone know what this plug is for behind the glove box by the ECU? Putting the interior back together and I don't see where this one should plug in. 

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                                  Getting really close to starting this. Transmission is filled with fresh MTL, clutch is bled, engine has oil. The setback came when I filled it up with coolant and the thermostat cover was seeping. The part that sucked was the radiator was so full of crud on the bottom the drain valve didn't even work so I had to drain it by just removing the thermostat cover. Then I pulled the radiator and flushed it. Tons of gross stuff in there. That's back in. Tonight or tomorrow I'll fill it back up and then try starting it. The battery is charging now.

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                                  • YoungCRY
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                                    YoungCR
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                                    I believe that is an extra maybe for autos? The car will run without it

                                    Chris Young
                                    BMWCCA #458972
                                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                      gilber33
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                                      YoungCR said:

                                      I believe that is an extra maybe for autos? The car will run without it

                                      Works for me! Thank you

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                                        gilber33
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                                        Okay, so it started up. Took some troubleshooting because I reversed the feed and return fuel lines. It sounded kinda gross at first but once it built oil pressure it sounded really good. 

                                        Two things I am noticing right now. 

                                        1. When I blip the throttle it kind of stumbles when the RPMs come back down. 

                                        2. The temp gauge was creeping past the middle mark on the gauge after about 10 mins of idling on jack stands. It does not have an electric fan, but hasn't had one in who knows how long and it was fine. My thought is maybe the coolant system needs to be bled since it was COMPLETELY drained. 

                                        Edit: Going to try adjusting the throttle body some to address the stumble.

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                                          gilber33 said:

                                          Okay, so it started up. Took some troubleshooting because I reversed the feed and return fuel lines. It sounded kinda gross at first but once it built oil pressure it sounded really good. 

                                          Two things I am noticing right now. 

                                          1. When I blip the throttle it kind of stumbles when the RPMs come back down. 

                                          2. The temp gauge was creeping past the middle mark on the gauge after about 10 mins of idling on jack stands. It does not have an electric fan, but hasn't had one in who knows how long and it was fine. My thought is maybe the coolant system needs to be bled since it was COMPLETELY drained. 

                                          Edit: Going to try adjusting the throttle body some to address the stumble. 

                                          I’ve had issues with the same stumbling, although it was accompanied by a somewhat poor idle. Check for vacuum leaks and make sure the  throttle position sensor is adjusted correctly and work from there. What do you mean by adjusting the throttle body? I wouldn’t touch the adjustment screw, just make sure the cable isn’t sitting too tight so that it holds the throttle open slightly. That’ll screw with the TPS reading. 

                                          For cooling, I would definitely bleed it and then see what happens. If it was totally empty, there’s probably a good bit of air in there still.

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