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    #55

    Im not sure about the shifter bushing on a ZF, but the WIBIMMERS cardinal rule is no Uro brand parts. Uro parts are usually installed with a ban hammer. Chris will let you use his after he is done with it

    The clutch kit looks good to me

    (SteveBuscemi.png)

    the RMS assembly is a convenience. I have always pressed the old seal out, reused the housing, and re-installed the new seal at a slightly different location as there is usually a groove worn into the crank hub. The one on my M52 was the most severe groove I had seen, but offsetting the new seal and using a genuine BMW seal with the seal driver made for a successful install.

    While we are on the topic I will mention that there are also Speedi-sleeves that SKF makes in case you find a groove on yours and want to feel better about restoring that smooth sealing surface.

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    • m42b32M
      m42b32M
      m42b32
      wrote on last edited by
      #56

      SteelBlue said:

      Would this be a good option for replacing clutch/flywheel? 

      I just bought that exact kit, havent taken it out of the box yet though. I think @AsparagusMike and @KaiserRolls have gripforce setups too, so maybe they can weigh in? I've heard good things considering the price point, just make sure to buy a better quality pilot bearing and throwout bearing because the ones in the kit are apparently trash

      1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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      • SteelBlueS
        SteelBlueS
        SteelBlue
        wrote on last edited by
        #57

        snap said:

        Im not sure about the shifter bushing on a ZF, but the WIBIMMERS cardinal rule is no Uro brand parts. Uro parts are usually installed with a ban hammer. Chris will let you use his after he is done with it

        The clutch kit looks good to me

        (SteveBuscemi.png)

        the RMS assembly is a convenience. I have always pressed the old seal out, reused the housing, and re-installed the new seal at a slightly different location as there is usually a groove worn into the crank hub. The one on my M52 was the most severe groove I had seen, but offsetting the new seal and using a genuine BMW seal with the seal driver made for a successful install.

        While we are on the topic I will mention that there are also Speedi-sleeves that SKF makes in case you find a groove on yours and want to feel better about restoring that smooth sealing surface.

        So I should be buying a shifter bushing for a ZF not a 260? 

        m42b32 said:

        I just bought that exact kit, havent taken it out of the box yet though. I think @AsparagusMike and @KaiserRolls have gripforce setups too, so maybe they can weigh in? I've heard good things considering the price point, just make sure to buy a better quality pilot bearing and throwout bearing because the ones in the kit are apparently trash 

        @KaiserRolls pls respnd

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        • straight6pwrS
          straight6pwrS
          straight6pwr
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          #58

          you need the shifter bushing specific to the shift carrier. it should be e36 everything for the shifter setup with the ZF trans.

          there is a poly(or delrin) shift bushing out there which is a good 'fix it once and never again' upgrade. i wouldn't recommend garagistic, but it was the first i found on a quick search.

          https://store.garagistic.com/bmw-performance-parts/bmw-3-series-parts/bmw-E36-parts/e46-oval-shifter-bushings

          Dan
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          • KaiserRollsK
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            KaiserRolls
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            #59

            I have the gripforce stuff in my e30. Toss the TOB and pilot bearing for something of OEM variety (unless they now come with good stuff)

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            • EarlE
              EarlE
              Earl
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              #60

              While you're refreshing the shifter I have a Garagistic rear carrier bushing that I already installed in a stock sleeve. I won't be using it and will sent it to you for $20

              https://store.garagistic.com/Rear-Poly-Carrier-Shifter-Bushing-e46-e36-e31-e92-e39-25111222015

              I also have a Ruff Racing adjustable shifter if you'd want to upgrade. I can give you details if you'd be interested. I started selling them for some spare change on the side. They're $175 shipped👍

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              • SteelBlueS
                SteelBlueS
                SteelBlue
                wrote on last edited by
                #61

                straight6pwr said:

                you need the shifter bushing specific to the shift carrier. it should be e36 everything for the shifter setup with the ZF trans.

                there is a poly(or delrin) shift bushing out there which is a good 'fix it once and never again' upgrade. i wouldn't recommend garagistic, but it was the first i found on a quick search.

                https://store.garagistic.com/bmw-performance-parts/bmw-3-series-parts/bmw-E36-parts/e46-oval-shifter-bushings

                Think I might grab @Earl's

                KaiserRolls said:

                I have the gripforce stuff in my e30. Toss the TOB and pilot bearing for something of OEM variety (unless they now come with good stuff) 

                Not sure if there is a good way to verify that or not, but will likely just buy some OEM type stuff.

                Do you have a stage 2? Would this be a good option for a non daily, mostly street car?

                Or should I go for the Stage 1?

                Earl said:

                While you're refreshing the shifter I have a Garagistic rear carrier bushing that I already installed in a stock sleeve. I won't be using it and will sent it to you for $20

                https://store.garagistic.com/Rear-Poly-Carrier-Shifter-Bushing-e46-e36-e31-e92-e39-25111222015

                I also have a Ruff Racing adjustable shifter if you'd want to upgrade. I can give you details if you'd be interested. I started selling them for some spare change on the side. They're $175 shipped👍

                Probably interested in that bushing and sleeve. I will PM you.

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                • SteelBlueS
                  SteelBlueS
                  SteelBlue
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  straight6pwr said:

                  you need the shifter bushing specific to the shift carrier. it should be e36 everything for the shifter setup with the ZF trans.

                  there is a poly(or delrin) shift bushing out there which is a good 'fix it once and never again' upgrade. i wouldn't recommend garagistic, but it was the first i found on a quick search.

                  https://store.garagistic.com/bmw-performance-parts/bmw-3-series-parts/bmw-E36-parts/e46-oval-shifter-bushings

                  So I actually misspoke. I added the correct shifter bushing to the cart now. However, I was originally referring to the bushing that goes in number 4 in this pic

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                  Is this the correct item to replace that?

                  I appreciate everyones help.

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                  • straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwr
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                    #63

                    someone said:

                    This can only be used if you also run delrin transmission bushings. The transmission and shifter having different allowable movements will cause linkages to brake, difficulty shifting and other issues. We also offer a hard poly version of this bushing for people who run rubber/poly transmission bushings. Those can be found here.

                    leave it up to garagistic to be about as intelligent as the average craigslist-er. 

                    youve got the right part. the one earl is offering is not for an e30.

                    Dan
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                    • SteelBlueS
                      SteelBlueS
                      SteelBlue
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                      #64

                      straight6pwr said:

                      leave it up to garagistic to be about as intelligent as the average craigslist-er. 

                      youve got the right part. the one earl is offering is not for an e30. 

                      Thank you, I will probably go with their poly version to pair with the trans and motor mounts.

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                      • EarlE
                        EarlE
                        Earl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #65

                        straight6pwr said:

                        leave it up to garagistic to be about as intelligent as the average craigslist-er. 

                        youve got the right part. the one earl is offering is not for an e30. 

                        I had forgot this was for his e30=(

                        museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #66

                          SteelBlue said:

                          Thank you, I will probably go with their poly version to pair with the trans and motor mounts.

                          The garagistic part looks like a 'meh' solution to replacing that bushing, but I'm biased and have had nothing but trouble with their products. Turner makes an excellent piece that includes a stainless version of the bracket. It's quite a bit more expensive but this is what I would probably buy if I was doing that job, plus it's the same cost as just buying the OEM one:

                          https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turner-motorsport-parts/shifter-bushing-assembly/021011tms01a/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIydis9KLi2wIVWbnACh2A4Ay-EAQYAiABEgIgnPD_BwE

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                          • AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMike
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #67

                            m42b32 said:

                            Turner makes an excellent piece that includes a stainless version of the bracket. It's quite a bit more expensive but this is what I would probably buy if I was doing that job, plus it's the same cost as just buying the OEM one

                            This ^

                            FWIW, I used the Turner bushing for my linkage and its a very nice part, stiffened everything up quite a bit more vs. Oem and its gonna last quite a bit longer. The price is a little high in terms of what ur getting so I would talk to patsbimmer about pricing, he got me a much better deal on it.

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                            • SteelBlueS
                              SteelBlueS
                              SteelBlue
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #68

                              AsparagusMike said:

                              This ^

                              FWIW, I used the Turner bushing for my linkage and its a very nice part, stiffened everything up quite a bit more vs. Oem and its gonna last quite a bit longer. The price is a little high in terms of what ur getting so I would talk to patsbimmer about pricing, he got me a much better deal on it.

                              Just ordered it through @patsbimmer1

                              I also purchased a stage 1 clutch kit through grip force. Bought a lot of seals, tie rods, and other things that I wanted to replace.

                              There should be a good amount replaced on the car by the time it gets going.

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #69

                                @SteelBlue i went with stage 2

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                                • SteelBlueS
                                  SteelBlueS
                                  SteelBlue
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                                  #70

                                  Anyone break a trans bolt head before? Still a good amount of the head left on the bolt, however, all of the hex portion is gone so theres really no way to get a socket on. I've heard using one of those reverse threaded/stripped bolt doodads might do the trick. Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue before. The bolt in question is the large one at about 11 o'clock if you were looking at the trans from the rear. It has the exposed threads at the backside which makes me think I could maybe cut the head of the bolt off and then thread two nuts on the exposed threading and loosen it that way? Don't want to make a hasty decision.

                                  First big mechanical issue in this process, many more to come I presume.

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                                  • YoungCRY
                                    YoungCRY
                                    YoungCR
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                                    #71

                                    No but I'd PB blast and heat the rest of them! That sucks

                                    Chris Young
                                    BMWCCA #458972
                                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                    • SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlue
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #72

                                      YoungCR said:

                                      No but I'd PB blast and heat the rest of them! That sucks

                                      Rest of them broke loose fine. This one is the straggler holding it on. Talking with @MPW3RLee, might cut the head off to pull the trans off and then work the rest of the bolt that remains with some heat and vice grip. Or do some other shenanigans to get it out.

                                      Could be worse, trans could be still in the car and could have broken it.

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                                      • ChrisOC
                                        ChrisOC
                                        ChrisO
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                                        #73

                                        How far does that bolt stick out past the block? Maybe you could get two thin nuts locked together on the part of the bolt sticking out and break it free that way with some heat

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                                        • SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlue
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #74

                                          ChrisO said:

                                          How far does that bolt stick out past the block? Maybe you could get two thin nuts locked together on the part of the bolt sticking out and break it free that way with some heat

                                          thin-nut-250x250.jpg 

                                          A good amount. That was my thought for getting it out.

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