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What is your ideal build?

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  • Ryan...R
    Ryan...R
    Ryan...
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    #1

    Like the title states, what is your "ideal" car build with your current vehicle? What would you like to use it for? Daily driver? Track rat? Hard parking? Little bit of each?

    To start, in addition to my current suspension upgrades I would love to someday do the following to my '89 325i, which I intend to explore tracks such as Blackhawk and Road America if possible:

    1. RHD ITBs

    2. Long tube headers

    3. 272 cam

    4. Megasquirt

    5. Refreshed head

    6. 16x8 Fifteen52 Formula TR wheels with some stickier meaty tires

    7. Gut 50% of the interior (everything behind the front seats), gut out the trunk area (carpets, sound deadening, etc)

    8. Welded in roll bar

    9. Fixed back front seats and quick release harnesses for track use, were I can keep my OEM 3 point belts for DD use.

    In my opinion, that is the *perfect* e30 combination of parts. I love the idea of taking the little M20 and just making it better, even though a turbo kit would cost 60% as much and make significantly more power. Making the car lighter and keeping its usability would also be a big plus, it's not as if I have people in the back seats :)

    Your turn!

    2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

    2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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    • B
      B
      B C
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      Megasquirt, even on a stock M20 is a huge upgrade in throttle response. There is the cost of entry and the learning and tuning but its well worth it.

      I have always been chasing "The Ultimate Street Machine", essentially something that rides the ragged edge of being enjoyable to daily drive/a PITA to daily drive.

      If I could throw infinite dollars at my E30 it would end up with:

      1. S54 swap with carbon plenum, 6 speed 

      2. Daytona Violet paint job, smoked ellipsoids, smoked Startec tails

      3. Half-cage

      4. Big brake kit 

      5. 16x9 wheels with ~2"dish

      6. 40% Lockup LSD

      7. 2" air lift setup on top of coilovers for fearless driving on bad roads+tackling unfavorable entryways as long as it doesnt affect handling 

      The more realistic dream for my car is: 

      1. Cardinal interior

      2. VAC Stage 2 head

      3. ITBs and Megasquirt 3

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      • Ryan...R
        Ryan...R
        Ryan...
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        snap said:

        Megasquirt, even on a stock M20 is a huge upgrade in throttle response. There is the cost of entry and the learning and tuning but its well worth it.
        I have always been chasing "The Ultimate Street Machine", essentially something that rides the ragged edge of being enjoyable to daily drive/a PITA to daily drive.
        If I could throw infinite dollars at my E30 it would end up with:

        1. S54 swap with carbon plenum, 6 speed 
        2. Daytona Violet paint job, smoked ellipsoids, smoked Startec tails
        3. Half-cage
        4. Big brake kit 
        5. 16x9 wheels with ~2"dish
        6. 40% Lockup LSD
        7. 2" air lift setup on top of coilovers for fearless driving on bad roads+tackling unfavorable entryways as long as it doesnt affect handling 
           
          The more realistic dream for my car is: 
        8. Cardinal interior
        9. VAC Stage 2 head
        10. ITBs and Megasquirt 3
           

        We should buy ITBs and Megasquirt together...

        Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

        2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

        2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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        • P_RoloffP
          P_RoloffP
          P_Roloff
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          #4

          I'd have to say for myself, it'd go something like this:

          E30 M3 front and rear suspension conversion, swap in an LSD at this time too

          Front X-brace, strut tower brace, Z3 rack

          Big brake kit

          Coils, but something and nice(read: expensive). I'd like to have a reduction in ride height and body roll without sacrificing comfort

          For the motor, either:

          -M20 2.9 or 3.1 stroker, RHD roller cam conversion, RHD ITB's, Megasquirt, long tubes, manual swap, etc.

          -Euro S50 with a 6 speed

          Recover the sport seats with one of the ///M fabrics or like a gray plaid center and black leather/vinyl bolsters

          Euro bumpers, euro front valance and lip, possibly a late model valance welded onto the rear as well?

          MTech I rear spoiler, either e28 or e30, rear plate filler, color the turn signals red in the rear

          Euro grilles, clear smilies up front

          Then for wheels, probably one of these:

          -BBS RZ 394

          -Alpina Softlines

          -Apex ARC-8

          There's probably more that I'm forgetting that I'd want, but that's the basic idea. I like the OEM+ look, nothing too crazy visually, somewhat comfortable to drive daily, competent on backroads,  and just a blast to drive regardless of what I'm doing.

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          • RekpointR
            RekpointR
            Rekpoint
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            #5

            Rust free Black or White E36 M3 with a rare Mcloth or modena interior.

            Felony Form Formovers

            BBS RCs

            Complete engine/ bushing/ coolant system overhaul.

            a BIG ASS Turbo pushing 700+ HP

            and little small tidbits that are not relevant because 700HP MIRITE

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            • Ryan...R
              Ryan...R
              Ryan...
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              #6

              Rekpoint said:

              Rust free Black or White E36 M3 with a rare Mcloth or modena interior.

              Not that I didn't like the rest of what you posted, but a clean black e36 M with modena would be tits..

              2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

              2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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              • HipMFH
                HipMFH
                HipMF
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                #7

                Pretty much this:

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                The guy actually put a feeler out for the car on facebook a couple years ago for $20k...

                https://www.facebook.com/groups/E21Legion/permalink/10154473400971757/?sale_post_id=10154473400971757

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
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                  #8

                  Very fair price considering what It would to replicate that. i dont think I have ever found an S14 for sale for less than $5000

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                  • straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwr
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                    #9

                    supercharger

                    better brakes

                    big ass stock pile of replacement drivetrain parts/tires so i can drive the pants off it with no worry. 

                    i would be so happy.

                    Dan
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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #10

                      straight6pwr said:

                      supercharger
                      better brakes
                      big ass stock pile of replacement drivetrain parts/tires so i can drive the pants off it with no worry. 
                      i would be so happy. 

                      This sounds similar

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                      • m42b32M
                        m42b32M
                        m42b32
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                        #11

                        As of this morning, it is basically my 318is but with:

                        Supercharged M54

                        6-speed

                        Clean body/paint, restored engine bay/underbody

                        Half cage and 5-point harnesses, cage paint matched AW2 for extra stants points

                        Mtech 1 spoiler

                        M3 Evo 3 cloth M-tech interior with the matching recaro SRD's (rear seat delete with the half cage, even in my dream car I would never want to pay for the m3 rear seat...)

                        Re-barrel the front Weds Bavaria's to a 16x8 et35 so that they fit properly

                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          m42b32 said:

                          As of this morning, it is basically my 318is but with:
                          Supercharged M54
                          6-speed
                          Clean body/paint, restored engine bay/underbody
                          Half cage and 5-point harnesses, cage paint matched AW2 for extra stants points
                          Mtech 1 spoiler
                          M3 Evo 3 cloth M-tech interior with the matching recaro SRD's (rear seat delete with the half cage, even in my dream car I would never want to pay for the m3 rear seat...)
                          Re-barrel the front Weds Bavaria's to a 16x8 et35 so that they fit properly 
                           

                          I know of a 6 speed for sale semi locally out of an e46m3.....

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                          • m42b32M
                            m42b32M
                            m42b32
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            KaiserRolls said:

                            I know of a 6 speed for sale semi locally out of an e46m3.....

                            That's tempting... budget is keeping me with a 5-speed for now

                            1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                            • m42b32M
                              m42b32M
                              m42b32
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              m42b32 said:

                              As of this morning, it is basically my 318is but with:

                              Cammed/ITB'd M54

                              6-speed

                              Clean body/paint, restored engine bay/underbody

                              Half cage and 5-point harnesses, cage paint matched AW2 for extra stants points

                              Mtech 1 spoiler

                              M3 Evo 3 cloth M-tech interior with the matching recaro SRD's (rear seat delete with the half cage, even in my dream car I would never want to pay for the m3 rear seat...)

                              Re-barrel the front Weds Bavaria's to a 16x8 et35 so that they fit properly 

                              I changed my mind, either would work but trumpets are rad

                              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #15

                                m42b32 said:

                                That's tempting... budget is keeping me with a 5-speed for now

                                It’s been posted for $1500 for a while now
                                Offer $1200 and sell me a spare 5spd zf lol

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                                • straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwr
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                                  extra highway MPGs will pay for the ~$1500 cost of the 6sp swap.

                                  rough guess says it will take you 60,000miles....worth it!

                                  Dan
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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    #17

                                    straight6pwr said:

                                    extra highway MPGs will pay for the ~$1500 cost of the 6sp swap.
                                    rough guess says it will take you 60,000miles....worth it!

                                    Dan always has the best logic.

                                    Joe you have no excuse now

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                                    • Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I also agree, 6 gears are the way to go.

                                      2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                                      2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                                      • i_love_carsI
                                        i_love_carsI
                                        i_love_cars
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                                        I'll have to use my touring for this because my M3 is already sorted the way I want.

                                        Ideal build for the touring would be

                                        - respray in Imola with shadowline window trim

                                        - S54 swap / RWD conversion with a nice set of apex wheels

                                        - all the E46 aesthetic bits that I haven't done and probably never will - headlight conversion, black kidneys, mtech II bumper shroud, etc. 

                                        I'd still use it as my daily at that point.

                                        IMG6593.jpg

                                        2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                        2007 Z4MR 
                                        2003 E39 M5
                                        2002 E46 M3
                                        2021 X5 40i

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                                        • patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1
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                                          #20

                                          For the M3 i'd have to say I'd want to keep it streetable but sporty and ready for track days:

                                          • KW V3 coilovers
                                          • ESS 625
                                          • BMW Performance Seats
                                          • IND splatter paint interior trim
                                          • DCT GTS trans tune
                                          • GT4 front lip
                                          • Some kind of rear diffuser
                                          • Macht Schnell test pipes and X pipe
                                          • Better brake cooling

                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                          BMWCCA #473306

                                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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