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  • KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRolls
    wrote on last edited by
    #75

    jc43089 said:

    There is loads more room on the sides and about the same front to back as it was in an e36.  WAY easier to install exhaust manifolds than in an e36.  
    Radiator question.  The stock Toyota radiator is thin, only 7/8" core, should I just run it because the Toyota engine was a similar horsepower so it should have enough cooling capability?  The only problem I can think of is that the reduced fluid volume will not be as nice.  The BMW radiator would kinda fit but I would be making custom straps to hold it and it would not be able to quick release anyway because it is under the top of the core support rather than behind it.  Pros for keeping the stock radiator is that it fits perfect, and the shrouding for airflow is already designed for it.  I guess the fan might just cycle more with the reduced fluid volume.
    Thoughts?

    People run these 24v swaps all the time with a 318 radiator.

    Run it & see

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    • B
      B
      B C
      wrote on last edited by
      #76

      Thats a tough call. 

      powerful stock fan + proper shrouds are a compelling argument to stay stock but my gut says its easier to resist heating up with more water capacity than it is to remove heat by convection.

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      • jc43089J
        jc43089J
        jc43089
        wrote on last edited by
        #77

        snap said:

        Thats a tough call. 

        powerful stock fan + proper shrouds are a compelling argument to stay stock but my gut says its easier to resist heating up with more water capacity than it is to remove heat by convection.

        I was planning to use one or 2 Spal puller fans, the stock fan is PWM controlled from the Toyota ECU and is excessively thick so it would hit my water pump shaft.  I could remove the threaded end of my water pump but it's already installed.  

        What about this.  A tank that will add volume to the system, although I would think to install it on the cold side of the radiator and have the fan switch right at the radiator outlet.  Somewhat like an E type Jaguar.

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        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
          wrote on last edited by
          #78

          KaiserRolls said:

          People run these 24v swaps all the time with a 318 radiator.

          Run it & see

          Yea, it would probably be just fine.  I have a Stewart water pump too which helps.

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          • B
            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #79

            This is what im sending since you cant receive pics on your potato phone. So hopefully you see this later on your toaster

            ef98a930baddc709b8ead8665d7ded41.jpg

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            • JdesignJ
              JdesignJ
              Jdesign
              wrote on last edited by
              #80

              snap said:

              since you cant receive pics on your potato phone

              Image result for potato phone gif

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
                wrote on last edited by
                #81

                snap said:

                This is what im sending since you cant receive pics on your potato phone. So hopefully you see this later on your toaster

                ef98a930baddc709b8ead8665d7ded41.jpg

                Woah so shiny!

                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                • HipMFH
                  HipMFH
                  HipMF
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #82

                  snap said:

                  my gut says its easier to resist heating up with more water capacity than it is to remove heat by convection.

                  If the cooling system isn't large enough to dissipate heat at an equal or greater rate than the engine is capable of putting out, then I think you're asking for trouble. Not that I envision this thing getting flogged continuously for a long periods of time, but adding more coolant capacity as "ballast" still seems like a half-ass solution.

                  That being said, I'd wager that the van's stock radiator is fine.

                  Edit: Actually, you're more likely to overheat sitting in traffic than anywhere else, due to lack of airflow. But again, extra coolant capacity might buy you a little time, but it doesn't solve the problem.

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                  • JdesignJ
                    JdesignJ
                    Jdesign
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #83

                    WE NEED MOAR VAN UPDATES.

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #84

                      I know, I've been busy with work, 3 kids, gardening, chickens, hogs, and house projects.  This will get done though.  I have been working a little here and there with getting the steering system situated.  The parts from Snap are going to work excellent.  I am working next on machining some parts for offsetting the inner tie rods up to avoid hitting the subframe.  I think it will work good, hopefully it turns out in real life like it looks in my head.

                      The oldest and youngest chillin with the hogs.

                      L2ME2Rk.jpg

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                      • JdesignJ
                        JdesignJ
                        Jdesign
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #85

                        Thats good to hear. I just am excited and wanted to make sure it wasnt forgotten about!

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                        https://www.instagram.com/_jdesigner_/                                          http://nevertoolow.tumblr.com/

                        🥳SOLD BMW E24 633CSI - BMW M30B32                                          🧪SOLD HCH  ES9 - 1.3 LDA
                        👽BMW E30 325IC - Toyota 1JZ-GTE                                                     ⏰ HONDA EF9 CIVIC SI - JDM B18C5
                        ☠️BMW E36 318i - Ford 5.0 FE302                                                         🚴‍♂️ GT-Labomba - 26x2.75 Freeride
                        🤹‍♀️SOLD BMW E36/7 Z3 - BMW M54B25                                                🧓SOLD BMW E10 2002 - BMW M10M05

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #86

                          Oh and add moving to the list of time usage.  I got this hauled to Wisconsin labor day weekend.  The family, hogs, chickens, and most of our stuff is moved.  Crashing at my parents house, I hear that is what cool millennial age folks are doing so I wanted to fit in.  Working on finishing things and getting the Iowa house sold.  Now I don't look so odd with my Wibimmers euro plate in the window driving around Iowa and Minnesota...  Although I still have Iowa plates on the car...

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                          • JdesignJ
                            JdesignJ
                            Jdesign
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #87

                            Welcome back!

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                            🥳SOLD BMW E24 633CSI - BMW M30B32                                          🧪SOLD HCH  ES9 - 1.3 LDA
                            👽BMW E30 325IC - Toyota 1JZ-GTE                                                     ⏰ HONDA EF9 CIVIC SI - JDM B18C5
                            ☠️BMW E36 318i - Ford 5.0 FE302                                                         🚴‍♂️ GT-Labomba - 26x2.75 Freeride
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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #88

                              Not really an update, but I dug the van out of the snow.  Working on figuring out wiring schematics.  The first step will be to just run the engine and later figure out what to do with instrumentation and how the van electronics will function without the ECU.  I still have a strong running 3MZ-FE if anyone needs one.  Perfect for an MR2 swap...

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • JdesignJ
                                JdesignJ
                                Jdesign
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #89

                                Glad this isnt dead. 😁

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                                https://www.instagram.com/_jdesigner_/                                          http://nevertoolow.tumblr.com/

                                🥳SOLD BMW E24 633CSI - BMW M30B32                                          🧪SOLD HCH  ES9 - 1.3 LDA
                                👽BMW E30 325IC - Toyota 1JZ-GTE                                                     ⏰ HONDA EF9 CIVIC SI - JDM B18C5
                                ☠️BMW E36 318i - Ford 5.0 FE302                                                         🚴‍♂️ GT-Labomba - 26x2.75 Freeride
                                🤹‍♀️SOLD BMW E36/7 Z3 - BMW M54B25                                                🧓SOLD BMW E10 2002 - BMW M10M05

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                                • jc43089J
                                  jc43089J
                                  jc43089
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #90

                                  We bought a house in June and are moved in.  I will post some pics soon.  I need to bring the van over still.  It acquired a bees nest behind the front bumper so I guess that is a sign I haven't been working on it.

                                  I bought a used but not very old 10k asymmetrical Rotary lift from a friend that was closing down his shop.  I need to drill a test hole in my garage floor to check for thickness before I figure out a plan for installation.  If the floor isn't thick enough I will add a "shop" stall to the end of the garage with a higher ceiling to accommodate the full lift height.  The existing part is 9'6" so it would still get quite a bit of height for cars but not so much for vans and trucks.  The existing garage is 26' deep by 32' wide.  It has a centered 16' door which is odd but it works.  The lift bay would have to be angled some to work with that.

                                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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