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Calling all M54 gurus! HELP!

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  • TkuhnT
    TkuhnT
    Tkuhn
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Here are the compression test numbers. Car ran for a little under 10 min before I performed the test.

    Spark plugs were a little wet and it was not fuel.

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      Brave soul performing a compression test and posting it here. There's been bad juju all here regarding compression tests lately haha

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      • JeffJ
        JeffJ
        Jeff
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        Can you post pictures of plugs also a video of the smoke would be helpful.

        1976 530i e12
        1990 325ix e30
        1992 325i e36
        1995 740il e38
        2001 330xi e46
        ^More to come :)

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        • ThatRatRodProjectT
          ThatRatRodProjectT
          ThatRatRodProject
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          Tkuhn said:

          ThatRatRodProject said:

          The m54 is know to burn oil.

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          That's what I have been told and read, but again oil consumption is one thing. The billowing clouds are another I would think. 

          As far as I'm aware Oil consumption is mostly caused by burning oil where else is it going to go.

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          • TkuhnT
            TkuhnT
            Tkuhn
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            Jeff said:

            Can you post pictures of plugs also a video of the smoke would be helpful.

            I will try to get the video up after work along with some photos of the plugs!

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            • TkuhnT
              TkuhnT
              Tkuhn
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              ThatRatRodProject said:

              As far as I'm aware Oil consumption is mostly caused by burning oil where else is it going to go.

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              I believe you took that wrong. Yes oil consumption is caused by burning oil, I think we all can understand that. But when it comes to excessive smoke out the exhaust it's more than a standard "oil consumption" issue and all I was looking for was some people with experience beyond knowing that there are oil consumption issues with the m54. I appreciate the specs but this issue is more than reading the manual.

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              • TkuhnT
                TkuhnT
                Tkuhn
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                KaiserRolls said:

                Brave soul performing a compression test and posting it here. There's been bad juju all here regarding compression tests lately haha

                I wasn't aware buttt I suppose if a person believes in that time will tell haha

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                • jc43089J
                  jc43089J
                  jc43089
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  I know it is a different engine but just for comparison.  My m50 smokes a little, Pretty sure it is ring blowby in my case because it smokes most under WOT.  The m50 has no catch can/ oil separator, it just goes from the valve cover to the intake manifold (stock) and the baffling in the valve cover is not good enough to keep oil from going with the air.  It has 275k on it so I don't feel it's abnormal.  It doesn't hang in the air like a diesel but it is a visible smoke on startup and when romping on it.  I don't keep great records but I think I add a quart every 1000-1500 miles, some is due to leaks though.  

                  Compare to a 2 stroke engine.  Assuming 25mpg, 1k miles is 40 gallons of fuel, mixed 50:1 that is 3.2 quarts of oil per 1k miles.  You aren't near that much so I wouldn't think it would cause plug fouling problems.  A little lube for the cylinders is good anyway.  

                  How's that for redneck engineering?

                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  • B
                    B
                    B C
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    how many tanks of fuel have run through the engine?

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      At 25mpg about 11000 gallons.  

                      687.5 tanks at 16 gallons/tank, I think it is actually a little bigger than that.

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                      • TkuhnT
                        TkuhnT
                        Tkuhn
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        Snap said:

                        how many tanks of fuel have run through the engine?

                        Since this started about 2 tanks. One of which was under heavy abuse.

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                        • TkuhnT
                          TkuhnT
                          Tkuhn
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          jc43089 said:

                          I know it is a different engine but just for comparison.  My m50 smokes a little, Pretty sure it is ring blowby in my case because it smokes most under WOT.  The m50 has no catch can/ oil separator, it just goes from the valve cover to the intake manifold (stock) and the baffling in the valve cover is not good enough to keep oil from going with the air.  It has 275k on it so I don't feel it's abnormal.  It doesn't hang in the air like a diesel but it is a visible smoke on startup and when romping on it.  I don't keep great records but I think I add a quart every 1000-1500 miles, some is due to leaks though.  

                          Compare to a 2 stroke engine.  Assuming 25mpg, 1k miles is 40 gallons of fuel, mixed 50:1 that is 3.2 quarts of oil per 1k miles.  You aren't near that much so I wouldn't think it would cause plug fouling problems.  A little lube for the cylinders is good anyway.  

                          How's that for redneck engineering?

                          Hahaha I don't disagree there, but to me it's abnormal for alot hanging smoke to be in the air after start up and at idle and when blipping the throttle. I went through a quart in one tank of gas, so something has to be wrong. After a good compression test result im leaning toward valve seals.

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                          • TkuhnT
                            TkuhnT
                            Tkuhn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            NOTE: while the car was running I removed the oil cap and got the hissing noise as I removed it. Meaning the crank case is under a fair amount of pressure. From research this means the CCV failed, but I have no CCV. Thoughts on that?

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                            • JeffJ
                              JeffJ
                              Jeff
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              I would be checking to see if you have any broken ccv hoses first.

                              1976 530i e12
                              1990 325ix e30
                              1992 325i e36
                              1995 740il e38
                              2001 330xi e46
                              ^More to come :)

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                              • TkuhnT
                                TkuhnT
                                Tkuhn
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                Jeff said:

                                I would be checking to see if you have any broken ccv hoses first.

                                Jeff said:

                                The CCV is deleted with a sealed system catch can set up, description is in original post

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                                • JeffJ
                                  JeffJ
                                  Jeff
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #23

                                  How are you pulling ccv gases??

                                  1976 530i e12
                                  1990 325ix e30
                                  1992 325i e36
                                  1995 740il e38
                                  2001 330xi e46
                                  ^More to come :)

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                                  • jc43089J
                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    You shouldn't have a dead end system, it needs to vent somewhere. Preferably into the intake. A quart per tank of gas is a lot. The crankcase should ideally have a vacuum when idling from the intake sucking from it. At minimum it should vent through a catch can to atmosphere.

                                    Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

                                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #25

                                      Quick hook up a vac gauge and see what it pulls at idle

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                                      • TkuhnT
                                        TkuhnT
                                        Tkuhn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        Jeff said:

                                        How are you pulling ccv gases??

                                        jc43089 said:

                                        You shouldn't have a dead end system, it needs to vent somewhere. Preferably into the intake. A quart per tank of gas is a lot. The crankcase should ideally have a vacuum when idling from the intake sucking from it. At minimum it should vent through a catch can to atmosphere.

                                        Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

                                        The system was described in the original post. The valve cover goes to the catch can. Then the other input on the catch can runs to the 2 ports on the intake. The oil drain is plugged.

                                        Also JC,that's what I was saying. The amount of smoke coming from the exhaust is not by any means a "natural" amount. I'm not new to engines or building them even, just made this post incase I was missing something I may not know about with all the accessories on these engines.

                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Quick hook up a vac gauge and see what it pulls at idle

                                        I planned to once I can get down to the garage

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                                        • jc43089J
                                          jc43089J
                                          jc43089
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #27

                                          I read that wrong sorry. Seems like it is hooked up right. Maybe pull the line off the valve cover with the engine running and see if it is sucking a decent volume. Maybe something is plugged up in the hoses or can itself?

                                          Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

                                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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