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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
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    #243

    Earl said:

    Have you tried looking for amy weird cult pages for the turbo diesel lincolns? Being that those had this motor, someone might have a stash of parts over here to fix them. Also, did Canada get these? I know they got m51's and some of the other 90's era diesels. 

    I'm hoping I don't need any major parts that aren't available online, though I will say it is amusing searching some of the part numbers from realOEM and getting no results....
    I think North America saw about 3,500 524td's per the work of someone on a forum contacting BMW. 

    I've learned so many things about diesel's and how their whole system works, and I'm quite excited to get this thing running!

    There certainly are a few funny things though, like how do you bleed the cooling system of something that won't get to operating temperature while idling?

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    • EarlE
      EarlE
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      010417-Barn-Finds-1984-Lincoln-Mark-VII-

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      • B
        B
        B C
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        #245

        Wikipedia shows that it also came in this Bertone Freeclimber

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        • GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGrey
          wrote on last edited by
          #246

          It was a one or two year production in the Lincoln, and the Bertone should be even easier to find 😉

          The parts I need for it are chassis specific or stuff that I wouldn't buy used. 
          Like the water pump, the bearings are pretty bad, but luckily that one is easy to get. 
          E30 specific radiator hoses are available from ECS as Euro Only, but will run me $75 before shipping. 

          The timing belt tensioner is slightly rough though, I think the OEM's didn't private label anything due to the low volume of parts, but the genuine BMW tensioner/idler is $100. 
          Finding parts for the Lincoln appears to be even worse actually. 

          I'm looking forward to starting attempts this weekend 😄

          I also need to remember to buy diesel oil, looks like it's quite different from standard engine oil.
          🤷

          Edit: just found the turbo diesel section of MyE28, this should be quite useful!

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
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            #247

            That Bertone is sick=P Couldn't you run those ribbed for her pleasure universal radiator hoses for now?

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
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              #248

              Earl said:

               Couldn't you run those ribbed for her pleasure universal radiator hoses for now? 

              I think I'll be able to get away with that, yes. 

              I'm avoiding spending any money on it until I know it runs, which I wish wasn't on my brain considering what I paid for it, but better to know earlier than later! 
              He was going full speed on his project with it so I'm not too concerned, but it will take what I'm assuming will be another 300-500 to get it fully grafted into the car and I don't want to start spending before I'm certain I can make it work!

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              • JdesignJ
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                Jdesign
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                I don't blame you for being cautious about spending money on it. Im not sure how that injection pump works, but make sure its bleed properly and cleaned well before you start cranking it over. I know that old mechanical injection diesels wont start with air in the line and old fuel tend to gum up the insides of the pump if it sits long enough.

                One thing I would also be cautious about when you do finally get it to start, is it running away from you. Keep something to suffocate that sucker if she takes the "D" and starts screaming.....

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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
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                  #250

                  Smother the turbo inlet with something. Properly sized block of wood would probably do it. Don’t use hands though

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                  • YoungCRY
                    YoungCRY
                    YoungCR
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                    Yeah I'd read up everything you can about the injection pump. As Jason suggested I'd make sure it's fit for starting first too as that's most expensive and critical part. Fuel filter should be changed and I'd suggest priming it with Lucas diesel injector cleaner after cracking all the injector lines to bleed air out. It surprising how much air can be in there.

                    As far a maintenance you should always be running a fuel additive too to help maintain the pump seals and keep the injectors clean. For oil, 1 gal of 15-40 rotella is $13.99 at farm and fleet, its what I run in the M20's anyways.

                    Chris Young
                    BMWCCA #458972
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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #252

                      I appreciate the input gentlemen, as this whole motor is a new endeavor for me.

                      Got a good bit of progress this weekend, put the E30 oil pan on it, with the e28 pump (internal pressure relief) 
                      There are straps that hold the block together, thought that was interesting. 

                      IMG20171125122940

                      I changed the timing belt on it as well, the old one was quite cracked and we all know how m20's like their timing belts...
                      It's kind of odd because the timing belt is a multi-rib on one side, and a timing belt tooth style on the other. 
                      I wish I would have taken a picture under the valve cover because it is not like a normal m20!

                      Pulled a whole bunch of random crap off the motor, like cruise control, and all of the other 5 series niceties. 

                      Luckily a friend of mine was in town this weekend who has done a bit of work with older diesel VW's and he came over and lent a hand. I can confidently say that he is the reason I am posting this update. 
                      We put both fuel lines into a bucket of diesel and hooked a vacuum pump up to the #6 injector return and started sucking diesel through the system. After that we hooked up a sketchy array of batteries and a charger to get the thing to crank over. The starter motor is just about 3x stronger than the gas motor so it takes some grunt to get it moving! 
                      I cranked the starter while he cracked injector lines to bleed air out, and we could start smelling a little bit of burnt fuel, no running, just something happening. 
                      Decided to crack open the harness (it was on at this point) and connect the glow plugs together and give those some voltage before cranking it. 
                      It ran on the first crank after heating the glow plugs! 

                      Went for another go and had some humor to go with it!

                      I didn't have the drain line for the turbo, and the turbo is in need of a rebuild so I threw it on just to quiet things down a touch, well apparently the turbo feed moves a lot more oil than I would have thought. 
                      Brett took a second to kill it because the motor was actually running without human intervention, so he had to actually remove the 12v wire from the fuel solenoid (which was a bright yellow wire that was barely clipped to the battery for this exact reason)
                      You can see/hear air working out of the system in the second video, it was shaking and running poorly to start, then an injector cleared and it started running somewhat well. 

                      IMG20171125205038

                      Next steps, insert motor in chassis, get proper oil flow and fill block with coolant, then get the motor to the point where I can verify the thing will run on its own without throttle assistance. 
                      Step by step I will get this thing rolling coal! 

                      Current state of compressor wheel

                      IMG20171126144818

                      Current state of compressor housing

                      IMG20171126144825

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                      • suspencefulS
                        suspencefulS
                        suspenceful
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                        Cool shit. You embedded the same video twice, FYI.

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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
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                          This is going to be awesome

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                          • JdesignJ
                            JdesignJ
                            Jdesign
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            Woah! Glad you got it to kick over and run. This is going to kick ass!

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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
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                              #256

                              Well either Flickr is being dumb or my connection here is mediocre. Not sure which one. 

                              Ordered a rebuild kit for the stock turbo, going to just rebuild that one.

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
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                                Okay, this is getting annoying. The links pull the video in then when I post it just goes white.

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                                • GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGrey
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                                  Same thing happened here.

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                                  • suspencefulS
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                                    suspenceful
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                                    Not sure what happened but now all the videos are gone. Flickr is great for photos, I've never relied on them for video. Try YouTube.

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                                    • B
                                      B
                                      B C
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                                      Simplicity is king

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          Tore the stock turbo apart last night and replaced the bearings, as the old ones were absolutely terrible. 
                                          The compressor wheel did indeed rub the housing a bit, but for now it's whatever. I grabbed a generic T3 rebuild kit from ebay for $30 and it worked perfectly. 

                                          IMG20171129204728

                                          I didn't take a ton of pictures
                                          After I got the CHRA all stripped down

                                          IMG20171129204724

                                          The edge of this guy was a bit concerning, as the compressor housing had similar markings, but we shall see if it was detrimental! 

                                          IMG20171129204714

                                          IMG20171129204659

                                          I wish someone else was around to see it, but as you can see by the mangled snap ring I got a bit annoyed with it and ended up using a screwdriver to push the edge in until it shot out of the housing. It flew up and hit the wall probably 10 feet up, and then I heard it land in the plastic tray with all of the new parts. I quick glanced for it and didn't see it. When I went to grab a new snap ring I saw the bent and oily one sitting in with all of the others. It flew right into its proper spot in the tray! 

                                          New bearings in, with new snap rings.

                                          IMG20171129205140

                                          IMG20171129205144

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                                          All together! 

                                          I pumped some oil into it to see how it felt, and it has no perceivable shaft play, and spun fairly well. I'm sure once it gets spun by the exhaust for awhile it will wear in a touch and free up a little bit, but even if it doesn't change it is a large improvement over what it had been. 

                                          Next step, time the motor and fuel pump!

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