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96 328is Passenger Rear Brake Issue

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  • EarlE
    EarlE
    Earl
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    This is proving to be a fun issue to try and diagnose....not. Roughly two weeks ago I did my RTABs and on the way home, I was hearing a very faint dragging sound from my passenger rear brake. When I would press on the brakes the dragging would get louder, as if the caliper wasn't grabbing hard enough. I figured I tweaked a hose during the RTAB install or I had a sticking caliper. I replaced the caliper, pads, rotor, and brake hoses. This issue still persists. I removed the hand brake shoes just to rule that out and the noises are still there. I also looked over the hardlines and do not see any kinks or damage to them. At this point I am grabbing at straws to figure out what the issue is. I figure it has to be from the rear tee to the caliper at some point. If it was anywhere before that, I would assume both rear brakes would be having similar issues. Has anyone ever experienced this or may know of what is causing it?

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    • B
      B
      B C
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      Did you try turning it off and on again?

      My first attempt would be bleeding that caliper, not to bleed out any air, but just to confirm you have a strong fluid stream getting to the caliper.

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      • patsbimmer1P
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        patsbimmer1
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        Come visit me on Friday and we'll figure it out.

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        • EarlE
          EarlE
          Earl
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Snap said:

          Did you try turning it off and on again?

          My first attempt would be bleeding that caliper, not to bleed out any air, but just to confirm you have a strong fluid stream getting to the caliper.

          Did that and it seemed normal

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
            wrote on last edited by
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            patsbimmer1 said:

            Come visit me on Friday and we'll figure it out.

            Friday I will be taking out the diff and subframe to install new bushings and chassis reinforcements=/

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            • m42b32M
              m42b32M
              m42b32
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              Is it possible your dust shield is contacting the rotor and dragging on it? Are you getting more brake dust on that wheel than the other side?

              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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              • EarlE
                EarlE
                Earl
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                m42b32 said:

                Is it possible your dust shield is contacting the rotor and dragging on it? Are you getting more brake dust on that wheel than the other side? 

                I forgot to mention there is no noise when the car is on stands and I rotate the wheel. The dust shield has tons of clearance. There is also no extra dust which is odd.

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                • patsbimmer1P
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                  patsbimmer1
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                  You should probably run through what you have tried already lol.

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                  • EarlE
                    EarlE
                    Earl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Why would I do that? The issue never changed and everything else has besides the hardlines

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      Earl said:

                      Why would I do that? The issue never changed and everything else has besides the hardlines

                      So we don't mention shit you already tried

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                      • m42b32M
                        m42b32M
                        m42b32
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Maybe an early wheel bearing failure? Its possible to not have noise or noticeable play when rotating it on a stand, but under the weight of the car it could potentially make a faint noise and hitting the brakes could affect the sound. 

                        Ooor, do you have access to one of those infrared thermometer things? You can use them to take the temperatures of each rotor after a long drive. One being hotter than the other would indicate dragging pads. 

                        Just throwin' some ideas out there

                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          I know you replaced the wheel bearings right? That's the only thing that's changed correct? If it was at a goofy angle, could the hub be cocked causing one side of the rotor to make contact with a pad?

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                          • EarlE
                            EarlE
                            Earl
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                            Wheel bearing is tight and was replaced in November. The noise sounds like metal being taken to a grinding stone so I am not sure what else would cause that noise when you touch the brakes lol

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              Maybe it's the 17x11 wheels 😃

                              Any debris in the shield?

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
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                                shooting in the dark here, as it seems like you've eliminate almost everything to do with the brakes/rotor/ebrake/wheels/etc.

                                the dust plates on the rear diff inputs/outputs can make that noise if they start rubbing on the case or something becomes lodged in them. i guess braking could cause just enough driveline movement to make the sound increase?

                                Dan
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                                • EarlE
                                  EarlE
                                  Earl
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                                  KaiserRolls said:

                                  Maybe it's the 17x11 wheels 😃

                                  Any debris in the shield?

                                  This is on stock wheels

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    Hm

                                    100% positive the hub is in perfectly

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                                    • EarlE
                                      EarlE
                                      Earl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      straight6pwr said:

                                      shooting in the dark here, as it seems like you've eliminate almost everything to do with the brakes/rotor/ebrake/wheels/etc.

                                      the dust plates on the rear diff inputs/outputs can make that noise if they start rubbing on the case or something becomes lodged in them. i guess braking could cause just enough driveline movement to make the sound increase?

                                      I'll take a peek at that. I just find it odd that this happened the day I did RTABs but it has had nothing to do with anything I touched when I replaced them

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                                      • straight6pwrS
                                        straight6pwrS
                                        straight6pwr
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                                        well if you replaced rtabs, then the whole trailing arm could be slightly moved compared to before, what might this effect? axles/stubs/wheel bearings would be on that list.

                                        Dan
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                                        • patsbimmer1P
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                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                          BMWCCA #473306

                                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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