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  • Delias95D
    Delias95D
    Delias95
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    #7

    rampelsauce said:

    In order to figure out proper wheel fitment, you need to make sure the offset is correct.  If the offset is negative enough, you may be able to use a hubcentric spacer adapter.  A couple companies make them.  

    I don't want to run them. They are on the car and I'm tryin to figure how these are being ran on it

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    • suspencefulS
      suspencefulS
      suspenceful
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      #8

      Those aren't 1 series wheels, Style 264s are 18" wheels. The pictures you took are of Style 137s from an E46 (17x7" ET47 with a 72.6mm hub bore). I have no idea how they're being ran, unless there is an adapter in there. Take the wheels off and find out. Otherwise the hubs could've been swapped, although the I'm not sure why that would be the case.

      Find out if there is an adapter in there and then get all matching wheels/tires. Different sizes in the rear are bad for your diff. Front isn't as bad but I wouldn't recommend it.

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      • EarlE
        EarlE
        Earl
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        #9

        In the first picture there seems to be about a 25mm spacer. The next picture looks to be taken at such an angle where that is hidden behind the wheel. If there is a spacer, this definitely would all make sense.

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        • straight6pwrS
          straight6pwrS
          straight6pwr
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          #10

          Those are not style 137s.....i just looked through all BMWs wheels, and this style is not any of them.

          EDIT: suspenseful found them, style 256s.

          2nd: i see no spacer. when looking into the hub like that with the bmw cap removed, you'd see the wheel, then the spacer, then the hub. not the case here. it looks like the wheel's centerbore is fitting nicely around the hub.

          Dan
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          • GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGrey
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            #11

            Or someone who got creative with a grinder/dremel to the wheels hub bore.
            They most certainly are not a style 137, the profiles on the spoke makes that very apparent.
            They are not a 264 either. 
            The great wheel mystery!

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            • suspencefulS
              suspencefulS
              suspenceful
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              #12

              First off, I misread your first post. I thought you said they were Style 264s, but you clearly said Style 256s.

              You are definitely correct, they are Style 256s from a 1-series, which have a 72.6mm hub bore.

              http://www.bmwstylewheels.com/bmw/256

              Someone got creative mounting your wheels, or they are an aftermarket replica. It's easy enough to take a wheel off and find out what's behind it or going on in the hub bore of the wheel. I doubt it, but the previous owner could've got them bored out... not sure why though.

              Got pictures of the 18" wheel? That might give another clue to the hub bore situation.

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              • straight6pwrS
                straight6pwrS
                straight6pwr
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                #13

                suspenceful said:

                but the previous owner could've got them bored out... not sure why though.
                 

                exactly!  why the hell would they even bother with wheels that fit the e39 like crap. terrible high offset, 17x7 size, etc. However, the fact that they even bothered would also lead me to conclude that they are dumb enough to try and grind the bore out themselves...

                Dan
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                • suspencefulS
                  suspencefulS
                  suspenceful
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                  #14

                  It almost looks like there is a seam in the hub section of the rotor (red arrow). Also, I thought the hub section looked super thick, which would potentially address the high offset issue. The two red lines you see are the exact same length. Obviously the perspective isn't perfect, but it is close. There is no reason the hub should be as thick as the rotor surface is.

                  Just take the wheels off and see if there are any markings or stampings on the back. Take a picture of the mounting surface on both the hub and wheel when you have it off.

                  ...now I'm curious, lol.

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #15

                    The hub offset is very high, as noted by this picture. That is the front rotor, and I believe the pictures posted were of his rear. pun intended? 
                    maxresdefault.jpg

                    The detective work here is real...

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                    • straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwr
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                      #16

                      funny how all this time we take trying to help wouldnt be necessary if the OP would take 5 min and dismount a wheel to look...

                      Dan
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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #17

                        We are all at work, what else would we have to do 😉

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                        • Delias95D
                          Delias95D
                          Delias95
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                          #18

                          Okay I was lucky enough to have zach help me out on some wheels. There where no rings or spacers.   Also found that one wheel was an 18in idk what style. So was previous owner was not smart!!!! Idk how they fit but they did lol.  Now I'm this cold I opened up driver side door and it wouldn't close finally closed now it won't open fml I'm too big to crawl in and out this car lol... Any tips on this one...?

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                          • Delias95D
                            Delias95D
                            Delias95
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            GunMetalGrey said:

                            We are all at work, what else would we have to do 😉

                            Wheels swapped now no rings or spacers idk how thy for but they did.  My post above this shows where I am a now with thiscar

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                            • Delias95D
                              Delias95D
                              Delias95
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                              straight6pwr said:

                              funny how all this time we take trying to help wouldnt be necessary if the OP would take 5 min and dismount a wheel to look...

                              I did dismount and mounted te proper wheels. No spacers no rings.

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                              • suspencefulS
                                suspencefulS
                                suspenceful
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                                Delias95 said:

                                I did dismount and mounted te proper wheels. No spacers no rings. 

                                So what wheels are on it now? E39 wheels with the proper hub bore?

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                                • patsbimmer1P
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                                  patsbimmer1
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                                  Delias95 said:

                                  Okay I was lucky enough to have zach help me out on some wheels. There where no rings or spacers.   Also found that one wheel was an 18in idk what style. So was previous owner was not smart!!!! Idk how they fit but they did lol.  Now I'm this cold I opened up driver side door and it wouldn't close finally closed now it won't open fml I'm too big to crawl in and out this car lol... Any tips on this one...?

                                  The latch is either freezing or the handle assembly is taking a crap on you.  You can buy a new assembly from the dealer that is keyed for your car but it's not cheap.  I believe when I had it done on my e36 325is maybe 5 years ago I bough it from Concours because they were the cheapest.  I want to say it was around $200.

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                                  • straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #23

                                    Delias95 said:

                                    I did dismount and mounted te proper wheels. No spacers no rings. 

                                    so did you look at the wheels? are they OEM bmw or aftermarket? (what markings are on the back?) Any signs of machine work to the wheels? Any grinding on the hubs? Take a picuture? we want to know!

                                    Dan
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                                    • straight6pwrS
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                                      straight6pwr
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24

                                      patsbimmer1 said:

                                      The latch is either freezing or the handle assembly is taking a crap on you. 

                                      i have had multiple times when my e30 doors would not stay shut went it was crazy cold. I rode holding the door with my hand (and once anchored it with a bungee) until it warmed up enough inside the car and then the door would shut. the latch was fine in function otherwise so I chalked it up to moisture freezing things up so blasted the internals with a silicone lube i believe.

                                      in general, all old BMWs i have experience with (e30s, e34, e36s) have had issues with freezing locks/latches. bad luck maybe. i dont know maybe other people have the same issues with other brands too?

                                      Dan
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                                      • patsbimmer1P
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                                        patsbimmer1
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                                        ^^^I would lean toward this.  This was a pretty common occurrence on my 95 e36 but I don't remember it being an issue in my 97.  The 95 was also in a lot rougher shape than my 97 was.

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
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                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          #26

                                          straight6pwr said:

                                          In general, all old BMWs i have experience with (e30s, e34, e36s) have had issues with freezing locks/latches. bad luck maybe. i dont know maybe other people have the same issues with other brands too?

                                          My previous e34, now Earls e34, had heated lock cylinders. It was pretty slick.

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