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  • suspencefulS
    suspencefulS
    suspenceful
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    #46

    i_love_cars said:

    that is inaccurate. I'm on an N55, in which case there is a rough outline of "Q2 2016" for MHD support. 

    The prescribed way of tuning on a large turbo N55 is with BMS's Cobb backend flash and JB4 ISO.  There is a monstrous thread on this at N54tech : http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24788

    and my car came with a Cobb AP already so even if MHD was an option for N55, it wouldn't be any cheaper cuz I've already got the AP unit.  JB4 ISO with the Cobb back-end flash from Terry is good for north of 500 whp with e85 and meth. Don't really need MHD for more gains even if it were fully fleshed out and developed for the N55.  If I wanted to go beyond 500 whp I'd be waiting for the new single turbos that are in development for N55 from Motiv. 

    ...I forgot that you were N55. Doh!

    I need to see this car in person some time. Wouldn't mind see what 500whp is all about either.

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    • i_love_carsI
      i_love_carsI
      i_love_cars
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      #47

      suspenceful said:

      ...I forgot that you were N55. Doh!

      I need to see this car in person some time. Wouldn't mind see what 500whp is all about either.

      you forget because you're spoiled with N54 lol F my life ;(

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      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
      2007 Z4MR 
      2003 E39 M5
      2002 E46 M3
      2021 X5 40i

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      • i_love_carsI
        i_love_carsI
        i_love_cars
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        #48

        so after a minor delay due to my inlet pipe not being ready, turbo is now in transit and will be delivered on Tuesday next week. 

        After talking with Hallway Pat for a bit I decided it would be wise to pick up a cheaper set of coilovers (BC Racing BR series) for $950 shipped. So I ordered those on Saturday. This will allow me to fix my bro-status ghetto drop that I've been suffering with my H&R sport springs, and hopefully help stabilize the power delivery of the new turbo.

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        2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
        2007 Z4MR 
        2003 E39 M5
        2002 E46 M3
        2021 X5 40i

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        • i_love_carsI
          i_love_carsI
          i_love_cars
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          #49

          I had a couple hours free tonight from 9-11 so I started disassembling the car. I'm definitely dropping the subframe. Got under the car and took about 4 seconds to realize it would be insanity to install a turbo on this thing without removing subframe.

          Unraveled

          Sway bar removed, upper and lower control arms disconnected from subframe, steering rack ends disconnected from wheel hub:

          Will hoist the engine tomorrow and just need to remove the steering rack bolts, 6 subframe bolts, and engine mount bolts, then the subframe will come down. Tomorrow I expect to finish disassembly so I can ship my OEM turbo to PURE right away to get my core charge refunded.

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          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
          2007 Z4MR 
          2003 E39 M5
          2002 E46 M3
          2021 X5 40i

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          • Chris WelterC
            Chris WelterC
            Chris Welter
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            #50

            Its not as bad as it looks.  I think I had my subframe dropped in about 3 hours (my first time doing it) and I have Xdrive.  I think the whole turbo removal process took me about 4 for what its worth.

            2009 335XI: JB4, DCI, Tein Springs, Custom exhaust, Single Turbo, Port Injection, VRSF 7", ...

            2002 Suburban: DD and toy hauler.

            1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee: Come buy this I dont want it anymore!

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            • i_love_carsI
              i_love_carsI
              i_love_cars
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              #51

              Chris Welter said:

              Its not as bad as it looks.  I think I had my subframe dropped in about 3 hours (my first time doing it) and I have Xdrive.  I think the whole turbo removal process took me about 4 for what its worth.  

              that's what it seems like. Honestly after 2 hours last night for where i'm at - all we're talking about at this point is the engine mount bolts, subframe bolts, and the 2 bolts for the steering rack. I'm about to head out now to get started for the day. More photos to come.

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              2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
              2007 Z4MR 
              2003 E39 M5
              2002 E46 M3
              2021 X5 40i

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              • i_love_carsI
                i_love_carsI
                i_love_cars
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                #52

                progress continues steadily. Subframe is now out of the way, engine mount/bracket removed, thermostat is off with WP soon to follow. 

                I ended up just using my jack to support the subframe and rotate it counter clockwise along with the steering rack. I gained miles of room to work on the turbo but I also don't need to futz with jockeying the subframe back over the steering rack during re-assembly now. 

                the $80 harbor freight engine support brace seems to be working well so far but to be sure I put a jackstand underneath the transmission bell housing right where it bolts up to the block. The car is shored up pretty well though. There was no movement from the engine when I disconnected the mounts and subframe.

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                2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                2007 Z4MR 
                2003 E39 M5
                2002 E46 M3
                2021 X5 40i

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                • i_love_carsI
                  i_love_carsI
                  i_love_cars
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                  #53

                  clear to the turbo and inlet pipe now. Just have to disconnect feed lines and such and will be able to pull the stock turbo out. Calling it a night for now. Also, +1,000,000 for working on cars without rust. 

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                  2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                  2007 Z4MR 
                  2003 E39 M5
                  2002 E46 M3
                  2021 X5 40i

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                  • i_love_carsI
                    i_love_carsI
                    i_love_cars
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                    #54

                    More updates. Turbo is out. Now I wait for parts. 

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                    2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                    2007 Z4MR 
                    2003 E39 M5
                    2002 E46 M3
                    2021 X5 40i

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #55

                      Nice! I don't envy the lack of room in those cars

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                      • B
                        B
                        B C
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                        #56

                        That is a very busy block casting. The manifold flanges and bolt pattern are interesting as well

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                        • suspencefulS
                          suspencefulS
                          suspenceful
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #57

                          Looks like you snapped off a stud on the right side of the manifold area?

                          Glad you got everything out.

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
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                            Snap said:

                            That is a very busy block casting. The manifold flanges and bolt pattern are interesting as well

                            That was the first thing I saw when I looked at the pictures.

                            ...

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                            • i_love_carsI
                              i_love_carsI
                              i_love_cars
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #59

                              suspenceful said:

                              Looks like you snapped off a stud on the right side of the manifold area?

                              Glad you got everything out.

                              Yeah the nut brought the stud with it. I was pretty upset because it was the ONE nut that I couldn't get with a T47, which I'm 100% sure is why it brought the stud with it. I had to use an 11mm open wrench to break it loose and turn it because the upper coolant line was in the way and while I was able to unplug the line from the block, i absolutely could not break it free from the turbo. No good point of leverage and it was fucking ON there. I talked to Dan about it and he said that he usually just removes the lines at the block and then takes them off the turbo when it's out of the car. Given what I saw with the oil lines and coolant lines, I agreed with that logic but the one drawback was the aforementioned with the open wrench. 

                              A little pb blaster and some finesse application of vice grips and the nut came off pretty easily though. 

                              Thankfully during re-assembly that won't be a problem and I will have clearance to properly torque. I kept telling myself that to keep my sanity as I was turning my wrench 15% of a turn at a time with a cramping hand.  😆

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                              2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                              2007 Z4MR 
                              2003 E39 M5
                              2002 E46 M3
                              2021 X5 40i

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                              • suspencefulS
                                suspencefulS
                                suspenceful
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                i_love_cars said:

                                Yeah the nut brought the stud with it. I was pretty upset because it was the ONE nut that I couldn't get with a T47, which I'm 100% sure is why it brought the stud with it. I had to use an 11mm open wrench to break it loose and turn it because the upper coolant line was in the way and while I was able to unplug the line from the block, i absolutely could not break it free from the turbo. No good point of leverage and it was fucking ON there. I talked to Dan about it and he said that he usually just removes the lines at the block and then takes them off the turbo when it's out of the car. Given what I saw with the oil lines and coolant lines, I agreed with that logic but the one drawback was the aforementioned with the open wrench. 

                                A little pb blaster and some finesse application of vice grips and the nut came off pretty easily though. 

                                Thankfully during re-assembly that won't be a problem and I will have clearance to properly torque. I kept telling myself that to keep my sanity as I was turning my wrench 15% of a turn at a time with a cramping hand.  😆

                                Gotcha. Glad it came out in one piece and you'll be able to thread it right back in there. I know how tight that area is on the 135i. I'm sure it helps that the subframe is dropped, but still.

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                                • i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_cars
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                                  #61

                                  Just ordered a JB4, flex fuel wires, Fuel-It stage2 LPFP, 3.5 Tmap sensor & adapter, cooler plugs, and fluids for refilling the car when it's all back together. Going to shoot for somewhere in the 60-70% range of E85 and see if I can be at 20-21 psi without meth. Methanol injection is really the only missing piece of the puzzle for the car right now and if I can even approach 500 whp without it, I'll probably leave it off the table. If push comes to shove and I really need it to hit my power goals, I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

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                                  2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                  2007 Z4MR 
                                  2003 E39 M5
                                  2002 E46 M3
                                  2021 X5 40i

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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    B C
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                                    N5X folks turning the volume up to 11 around here

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                                    • i_love_carsI
                                      i_love_carsI
                                      i_love_cars
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                                      well the odyssey continues. Turbo arrived today:

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                                      I transferred the wastegate over to the new turbo, built the forge diverter valve, and started taking lines off to swap those and quickly realized I would be better off buying new lines. All the parts I needed sadly aren't in stock for 3 days so my progress on the installation is halted until early next week, however, by that time I should have everything I need in entirety. I'm currently waiting on parts from 3 different sources.

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                                      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                      2007 Z4MR 
                                      2003 E39 M5
                                      2002 E46 M3
                                      2021 X5 40i

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                                      • Chris WelterC
                                        Chris WelterC
                                        Chris Welter
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #64

                                        i_love_cars said:

                                        Just ordered a JB4, flex fuel wires, Fuel-It stage2 LPFP, 3.5 Tmap sensor & adapter, cooler plugs, and fluids for refilling the car when it's all back together. Going to shoot for somewhere in the 60-70% range of E85 and see if I can be at 20-21 psi without meth. Methanol injection is really the only missing piece of the puzzle for the car right now and if I can even approach 500 whp without it, I'll probably leave it off the table. If push comes to shove and I really need it to hit my power goals, I'll cross that bridge when I get there. 

                                        FYI no octane benefits over E60. I think I can run close to 20psi with port injection and pump gas FWIW as well. 50-60% e and No meth should be fine I'd think on 20-21 easy..

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                                        2009 335XI: JB4, DCI, Tein Springs, Custom exhaust, Single Turbo, Port Injection, VRSF 7", ...

                                        2002 Suburban: DD and toy hauler.

                                        1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee: Come buy this I dont want it anymore!

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                                        • i_love_carsI
                                          i_love_carsI
                                          i_love_cars
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                                          Update: turbo is installed!

                                          There was a significant delay in receiving the new hardware and lines for the turbo that I required. Finally arrived yesterday so I got everything back together and filled with fluid, primed the water pump, and then today TJ stopped by right as I was priming the turbo so he got to be the first witness to the car starting up. Everything appears to be in order - no leaks, no unexpected noises/grinding/explosions/fire, and no warning lights. I've gone through a couple cooldown cycles of the engine over the past 6 hours consecutively idling for 2 minutes, 15 minutes, and 30 minutes (just finished the 30 minute run). I'm calling it good. 

                                          Things still to be done:

                                          -Re-install subframe and hook up suspension bits and get the front of the car back on the ground.

                                          -install JB4, colder spark plugs, flex fuel wires, N20 3.5 tmap sensor, and Fuel-It stg2 fuel pump

                                          -map appropriate tune.

                                          -get to Big Bear Tire on April 8th for an alignment

                                          IMG6593.jpg

                                          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                          2007 Z4MR 
                                          2003 E39 M5
                                          2002 E46 M3
                                          2021 X5 40i

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