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  • HipMFH
    HipMFH
    HipMF
    wrote on last edited by
    #185

    Crimps! I tried a couple different crimpers, but wasn't able to get anything I was 100% satisfied with. The 20ga wire on the Haltech harness is right on the edge of the size range for the contacts I'm using. I'm going to order the smaller size to see if it works any better.

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    Anyways, as long as I was at it, I decided to do a basic pull test on them. I don't have a force gauge, so this doesn't really tell me much. It was fun though.

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    I was going to re-use most of the connector housings from a stock harness, but it turns out that removing the contacts from the housing is nearly impossible. Also, half of the fittings I ordered for plumbing the oil and coolant to the turbo didn't work for one reason or another, so it doesn't really feel like I accomplished anything this weekend. Still have a 21 item long list of things I need to order tonight...

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    • JdesignJ
      JdesignJ
      Jdesign
      wrote on last edited by
      #186

      haltech has a special crimper you can buy

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      • HipMFH
        HipMFH
        HipMF
        wrote on last edited by
        #187

        Jdesign said:

        haltech has a special crimper you can buy

        The one they sell is just a generic crimper. Both of the crimpers I'm using are racheting that won't release until you applied enough force. They should be more consistent as far a the force applied to the crimps. The generic ones rely on the users judgement to decide how much pressure to apply.

        I believe the smaller terminals will work better, but the real problem is just that I have access to too much information as far as quality standards go. Even the bad crimps that I did last weekend we're good enough that the wire was breaking without pulling out of the crimp. Even so, electrical problems are a PITA, so I'm doing my best to avoid them.

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        • JdesignJ
          JdesignJ
          Jdesign
          wrote on last edited by
          #188

          I was thinking of one of these:

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          • HipMFH
            HipMFH
            HipMF
            wrote on last edited by
            #189

            The terminals for Bosch connectors are an F-crimp. The crimper you're thinking of crimps from 4 sides and is used on circular contacts such as Deutsche connectors.

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            • HipMFH
              HipMFH
              HipMF
              wrote on last edited by
              #190

              This excerpt from one of the TE docs gives some idea of what the target condition should look like:

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              Aside from this, I also have the IPC-A-620 book sitting on my desk at work. The IPC spec lays out inspection criteria in excruciating detail. Wire doesn't extend past crimp area? Defect. Crimp extends to the edge of the crimp area on the insulation side so that there's no "bellmouth"? Defect. Wire nicked slightly while stripping? Defect. Basically, if it's not perfect, it's not good enough.

              I'm on a couple "motorsports wiring" facebook groups, and if you even mention IPC on there, you'll pretty much get laughed at because it's not whatever MIL/NASA spec that those guys claim to be using. The money and time invested gets to be out of hand pretty quickly, but if you're spending crazy money to go racing it's cheap insurance vs getting a DNF because a crimp failed. I'm just shooting for something close to OEM standards...

              In case anyone is interested, this is the most referenced page on the internet when it comes to "motorsports wiring": https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/wiring_ecu.html

              Best part of the page IMO is the picture of this woman from the 40's with the bad-ass hair:

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              • YoungCRY
                YoungCRY
                YoungCR
                wrote on last edited by
                #191

                Thanks for all of that nerdy info I now have more things to OCD over 😂

                Chris Young
                BMWCCA #458972
                1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #192

                  Crimpin’ aint easy

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                  • HipMFH
                    HipMFH
                    HipMF
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #193

                    Looks like the sign has landed on my car this year... Thanks @GunMetalGrey

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
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                      #194

                      You made it last year! Id love to see all the new changes in person. Have you found a dyno to get it tuned on or are you going to DIY?

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                      • HipMFH
                        HipMFH
                        HipMF
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                        #195

                        If I get the car to the picnic, it will be on a safe DIY tune. Once I prove out that everything is working properly, I'm hoping to rent dyno time somewhere and do the tuning myself. I guess it all depends on how comfortable I feel once I start dabbling with the tuning software. Conceptually, I have a good idea of what needs to happen, it just depends whether or not I feel confident executing the plan myself at that point.

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                        • HipMFH
                          HipMFH
                          HipMF
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #196

                          ECU mounted in a legitimate fashion. This is a first for me.

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                          Our neighbor Woody dropped off this Hazard Fraught bead roller a year or two ago and said to try it out. It's been sitting around, untouched, ever since. I'm pretty sure he forgot that he even gave it to us. By mid-day Saturday I'd had enough of dealing with wiring and decided to work on the charge piping for a while to clear my head, so I set it up.

                          I feel a little bad complaining about it because it worked and it was free, but this thing is seriously bad. Out of the box, it felt like picking up on someone else's half-finished project. Didn't come with any kind of stand, nor did it really seem to have any provisions for attaching one. I guess you're supposed to clamp it in a vise? Doesn't really work with where our vise is. Aside from the obvious pinch-point on the business end, there are some nice chompy gears waiting for an opportunity to get you on the other end.

                          The edges of the female die was sharp enough to cut yourself on, so I had to chuck that up in the mini-lathe and used a file to round off the corners so they wouldn't cut into the pipe while it was being rolled. The irony of using a HF tool to fix another HF tool was not lost on me. It worked though, so that's one thing off my list.

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                          • HipMFH
                            HipMFH
                            HipMF
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                            #197

                            I also brought some stuff home to work on. Stayed after work today to re-clock the new turbo. As long as I had it apart, I decided to clean up the turbine casting in a couple spots that I didn't like. The other one that's not pictured is the inlet to the wastegate. It's just a hole drilled perpendicular into the side of the turbo, so I put a radius on the inlet side. Probably not a huge improvement, but it makes me feel better.

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                            • straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwr
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                              #198

                              someone else is watching AvE on youtube. nice BOLTR on the bead roller!

                              Dan
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                              • HipMFH
                                HipMFH
                                HipMF
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #199

                                Creating sanity from unsanity:

                                So, for most of the winter, this build has gone as follows:

                                Saturday: Show up at the shop, do some work maybe, drink some beer, enjoy life.

                                Sunday: Maybe do some work, then go home.

                                Monday/Tuesday: stress out about work that needs to be done / order parts.

                                Routing various gases and fluids from one place to another is basically plumbers work. Even though there have been hurdles to clear, the work that needs to get done has been pretty straight forward. No alarms, no surprises.

                                Then comes wiring the ECU.

                                My initial (last minute) plan and execution looked like this:

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                                Aaaaand, fail. So far, every time I've attacked the wiring on this thing I've made some progress, then later realized that I've made some mistake. This is not sustainable, so I've decide that I need to back the truck up and do some actual planning:

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                                Drawing this wiring diagram out has proven to be way more cathartic than dealing with a mass of wires draped across the engine bay. I still need to translate this into an actual harness diagram so that I know where the point A and point B of every wire is, but after that the actual execution should be pretty straight-forward...

                                Fail to plan, and then do some planning = success maybe.

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                                • YoungCRY
                                  YoungCRY
                                  YoungCR
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                                  #200

                                  Your google photos aren’t showing up for me 😦

                                  Chris Young
                                  BMWCCA #458972
                                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                  • HipMFH
                                    HipMFH
                                    HipMF
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #201

                                    YoungCR said:

                                    Your google photos aren’t showing up for me 😦

                                    Thought I could beat the system....

                                    Fixed.

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                                    • SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlue
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                                      #202

                                      This is my nightmare

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #203

                                        I like your new diagram. 
                                        The 12v while cranking is usually sent to the unloader relay chassis side.

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                                        • straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwr
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                                          #204

                                          ooo, pretty diagram. youll be rewarded by not having a spaghetti mess in the end and troubleshooting will be systematic instead of guesswork. you can put the time in now, or the time in later, but the time gods must have their fill.

                                          Dan
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