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E21 Project Thread - Part 2

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  • Bassboy3313B
    Bassboy3313B
    Bassboy3313
    wrote on last edited by
    #305

    So I got into my car this morning to do another tune run, push the start button (push button ignition) and I got absolutely nothing from starter. Everything gets power when I flip the ignition switch, but no cranking whatsoever from starter.

    Battery is brand new, so that can't be the issue. All wiring I see is snug and tight. I have my start button wired up to the diagnostic port pins that go to starter and battery bus. It was the easiest way to do it at the time. I did disconnnect the wires and connected my remote test button to diag. port and still nothing. Haven't had any issues until now. Hell, it even started up just fine on monday.

    Anybody have any ideas for me??

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    • EarlE
      EarlE
      Earl
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      #306

      Did you try jumping power straight to the starter to make sure the solenoid didn't shit out?

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      • Bassboy3313B
        Bassboy3313B
        Bassboy3313
        wrote on last edited by
        #307

        No I haven't. I'll have to look into it as I'm not familiar with doing that.

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        • DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFootD
          DrLeadFoot
          wrote on last edited by
          #308

          Use a screw driver to jump the posts.

          Build is looking great!!

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          • B
            B
            B C
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            #309

            DrLeadFoot said:

            Use a screw driver to jump the posts.

            Build is looking great!!

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            I am wary of that method on EFI equipped cars

            I have heard horror stories of fusible links and ecus being fried from accidentally bumping the starter terminals with tools

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            • Bassboy3313B
              Bassboy3313B
              Bassboy3313
              wrote on last edited by
              #310

              Yeah. I wouldn't want to mess anything up further

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
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                #311

                Snap said:

                DrLeadFoot said:

                Use a screw driver to jump the posts. Build is looking great!!

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                I am wary of that method on EFI equipped cars

                I have heard horror stories of fusible links and ecus being fried from accidentally bumping the starter terminals with tools

                Is this why none of my cars work? Lol

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                • Bassboy3313B
                  Bassboy3313B
                  Bassboy3313
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                  #312

                  Well, after letting it sit for a day and the battery on a charger just for good measure, I went out there to try again. Tried to start it like normal and nothing still. Took my multimeter and checked that the main power wire going to starter had same voltage as battery, it did. I then hooked up my remote tester switch to the diag. port to test the ignition wire on the starter for 12V. Starter started cranking, didn't know car was in gear, ran over my foot, ouch!! Took it out of gear, hooked the push button back up to the diag. port like I usually have it, went inside cabin to start car, fired up no problem. 

                  So my conclusion is I am either looking at a starter that is starting to go out or the wiring at the diag. port is being finicky and I should find a new way to wire up my push button start. Thoughts?

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                  • YoungCRY
                    YoungCRY
                    YoungCR
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                    #313

                    I would wire up the ignition into the end of the harness instead of the diag port just to  eliminate concerns but a new starter wouldn't be a bad idea either.

                    Chris Young
                    BMWCCA #458972
                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                    • wasnt m3W
                      wasnt m3W
                      wasnt m3
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #314

                      There's a place in Butler that rebuilds starters for $40, if you don't feel like buying a new one.

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                      • Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #315

                        I got one with the sedan project, so maybe ill get that one tested and see if its usable. If so, I could swap it into the e21 and get that one rebuilt for the sedan.

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                        • Bassboy3313B
                          Bassboy3313B
                          Bassboy3313
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #316

                          Turns out the wiring connection on the starter from the sedan is completely broken. So looks like I'm in need of 2 starters now. 😕

                          On a side note. Made a front strut brace yesterday.

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
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                            #317

                            Question for you engineers.

                            When the strut brace is bolted in like that, couldn't the towers still move? I'm sure it's negligible, just curious.

                            The IE bar I have is solid from tower to tower fwiw

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                            • Bassboy3313B
                              Bassboy3313B
                              Bassboy3313
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #318

                              I was thinking of just welding it solid, but would be nervous about it never coming off the strut studs again, lol. It's already a tight squeeze onto the studs for the plates without the bar attached to them.

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #319

                                Bassboy3313 said:

                                I was thinking of just welding it solid, but would be nervous about it never coming off the strut studs again, lol. It's already a tight squeeze onto the studs for the plates without the bar attached to them.

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                                It sometimes helps with install if I jack the car up from the middle of the front subframe and let everything hang lol

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                                • Bassboy3313B
                                  Bassboy3313B
                                  Bassboy3313
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #320

                                  I believe it may be the push button itself. Hooked remote button to diag port, it cranked. Hooked push button up to diag port, it cranked too. Pushed it again and nothing. Hooked remote button to diag port and it cranks

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                                  • Bassboy3313B
                                    Bassboy3313B
                                    Bassboy3313
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #321

                                    Thanks to Kyle's shop mate Connor, I'll be picking up my new modified rear subframe hopefully this week.

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                                    • B
                                      B
                                      B C
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                                      #322

                                      For anyone not in the know: its so he can sell his unicorn blood e21 LSD for $500 and use a more robust medium case diff.

                                      an elusive S3.46 at that.

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                                      • YoungCRY
                                        YoungCRY
                                        YoungCR
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #323

                                        Sweet! Have a lot of guys done the diff conversion like this?

                                        Chris Young
                                        BMWCCA #458972
                                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                        • Bassboy3313B
                                          Bassboy3313B
                                          Bassboy3313
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #324

                                          Only a few guys I know have done it this way. Others have used the entire e30 subframe and just weld the e21 mounts to ends. That changed the offset and spacing tho. Same with using entire e28 subframe which others have done too.

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