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1991 318is M62B44 Build

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  • CMartC
    CMartC
    CMart
    wrote on last edited by
    #139

    RX7 BBK in the mail.

    With the suspension brakes and torque this shouldn't make a bad autox machine.

    Excursion 7.3
    E30 LS1

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    • B
      B
      B C
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      #140

      Gr8 pl8 m8

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      • CMartC
        CMartC
        CMart
        wrote on last edited by
        #141

        That isn't my plate. I just ordered a BBK. If that's what you were referencing.

        Excursion 7.3
        E30 LS1

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        • CMartC
          CMartC
          CMart
          wrote on last edited by
          #142

          Hoping for some help from the community.

          All my mechanical is done. Driveshaft, booster, brakes, clutch, etc. I am stuck on the wiring. Here is my current setup.

          1997 M62 OBDII engine harness

          Tuned 88 pin 1997 540i ECU with EWS delete

          1998 non-vanos motor

          I am getting voltage to the dme since it is hard wired, but not sure if the DME power is hooked up. Anyone who has done another motor swap with any input?

          Here is labeled C101, 2 relayed on the engine harness, white plug off the harness and DME (not plugged in).

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          I've got power and ground to everything (sloppy for now)

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          This is where I am confused. I know the black wire leads to my starter, but what about the rest?

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          I can get the starter to engage by hooking up 12v to it, I can get the fuel pump going. When I crank it with fuel pressure it doesn't fire up.

          What am I missing?

          For the record here is the C101 and DME pinout for this setup:

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          Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would love to get this thing running before winter hits.

          Excursion 7.3
          E30 LS1

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          • KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRolls
            wrote on last edited by
            #143

            Injector rails grounded? Getting fuel/spark?

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            • straight6pwrS
              straight6pwrS
              straight6pwr
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              #144

              garagistic has a little chart on m62 wiring: http://garagistic.com/index.php?page=e30-m60-wiring

              i can't find any wiring diagrams online to identify that white 12-pin connector.

              Dan
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              • CMartC
                CMartC
                CMart
                wrote on last edited by
                #145

                Thanks guys.

                Not getting fuel/spark.

                I need to make sure my motor is ground, doing that today after work.

                Dan - I think you did just find it on that link - any idea what B/S mean? Wouldn't the socket and pin housing be the same?

                That would make sense too because the only thing I was using for that white 12-pin was the starter out. I wasn't putting any V in to power the DME etc.

                Edit - the table didn't show - it is the one at the bottom of the link you used.

                PIN ASSIGNMENTS (AKA X6011) Pin   Description B: Socket housing
                S: Pin housing
                1   Terminal 15 B: Unloader relay terminal 15     S: Ignition switch 2   Terminal 15 B: DME control unit     S: Fuse F14 3   Start signal terminal 50 B: Start relay     S: Electronic immobilizer control unit (EWS) 4   Diagnosis signal TXD B: Connector TXD     S: Connector TXD 5   Not used         6   Terminal 15 B: Connector terminal 15     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 7   Terminal 87 B: Connector, terminal 87     S: Fuse F31 8   Signal, terminal 50 B: DME control unit     S: Ignition switch 9   Signal, alternator D+ (terminal 61) B: Generator     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 10   Remote thermometer signal (negative) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 11   Remote thermometer signal (positive) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 12   Ground activation, terminal 85 B: DME control unit     S: Fuel pump relay 1

                Excursion 7.3
                E30 LS1

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #146

                  DME needs to see timing data from the crank sensor/trigger wheel to run the fuel pump and generate spark

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                  • CMartC
                    CMartC
                    CMart
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #147

                    Crank and cam are hooked up.

                    Excursion 7.3
                    E30 LS1

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #148

                      CMart said:

                      Crank and cam are hooked up.

                      DME isn't bad?

                      I had an issue where my swap would randomly shut off while driving but the DME was still getting power. It would start back up but would do it randomly. Put in a new main relay and different DME and now it's perfect. I also re-went over my grounds. Harness, engine, injector rail and my e fan

                      Do you have a different DME you can try easily?

                      Fuel pump primes when key is turned?

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                      • CMartC
                        CMartC
                        CMart
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #149

                        DME is brand new - tested after the tune.

                        I have ground, but not sure about having it on the fuel rail. Are you sure the V8 rail needs ground as well?

                        Excursion 7.3
                        E30 LS1

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                        • CMartC
                          CMartC
                          CMart
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #150

                          Don't mind the video - just turn up your speakers...

                          Excursion 7.3
                          E30 LS1

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                          • straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwr
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                            #151

                            so you got it?

                            my best guess for this was it was referring to which side of the connector and where it is headed. Basically male(pin)/female(socket) for that junction and everything 'socket' was on the side headed towards the body/other controllers and everything 'pin' was on the side headed to the DME. so your white connector is the 'pin' side, and the the 'socket' side is where its headed toward on the body.

                            B: Socket housing
                            S: Pin housing

                            i wasnt positive, though, because your connector is missing some pins that are listed in the chart, although cars can differ from year to year

                            Dan
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                            • CMartC
                              CMartC
                              CMart
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #152

                              Yeeep.

                              A little trial and error and boom.

                              Now all the little wires, straighten up some of the routings, bleed the brakes/clutch and give it some abuse on Sunday.

                              Excursion 7.3
                              E30 LS1

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                              • wasnt m3W
                                wasnt m3W
                                wasnt m3
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                                #153

                                Congrats! Definitely looking forward to seeing/hearing this thing in person!

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #154

                                  Yes! Was it the pin connector thing ?

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                                  • straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #155

                                    sweet! also cant wait to see it

                                    Dan
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                                    • CMartC
                                      CMartC
                                      CMart
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #156

                                      Yes:

                                      The two green wires needed 12v. One to activate the fuel pump relay, red/white wire, (which I was using a go around for) and the other to turn the ECU on. 

                                      Black is starter which is hooked up to the C101.

                                      Ordered a huge Z3M 3 row mishi last night to keep it cool. Hoping to get it on the road Sunday and have the bugs worked out for the fall meet.

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                                      Excursion 7.3
                                      E30 LS1

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                                      • ClassEC
                                        ClassEC
                                        ClassE
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #157

                                        Awesome - glad you got this running!

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                                        • CMartC
                                          CMartC
                                          CMart
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #158

                                          Me. Fn. Too.

                                          Excursion 7.3
                                          E30 LS1

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