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1991 318is M62B44 Build

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  • B
    B
    B C
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    #140

    Gr8 pl8 m8

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    • CMartC
      CMartC
      CMart
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      #141

      That isn't my plate. I just ordered a BBK. If that's what you were referencing.

      Excursion 7.3
      E30 LS1

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      • CMartC
        CMartC
        CMart
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        #142

        Hoping for some help from the community.

        All my mechanical is done. Driveshaft, booster, brakes, clutch, etc. I am stuck on the wiring. Here is my current setup.

        1997 M62 OBDII engine harness

        Tuned 88 pin 1997 540i ECU with EWS delete

        1998 non-vanos motor

        I am getting voltage to the dme since it is hard wired, but not sure if the DME power is hooked up. Anyone who has done another motor swap with any input?

        Here is labeled C101, 2 relayed on the engine harness, white plug off the harness and DME (not plugged in).

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        I've got power and ground to everything (sloppy for now)

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        This is where I am confused. I know the black wire leads to my starter, but what about the rest?

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        I can get the starter to engage by hooking up 12v to it, I can get the fuel pump going. When I crank it with fuel pressure it doesn't fire up.

        What am I missing?

        For the record here is the C101 and DME pinout for this setup:

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        Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would love to get this thing running before winter hits.

        Excursion 7.3
        E30 LS1

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
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          #143

          Injector rails grounded? Getting fuel/spark?

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          • straight6pwrS
            straight6pwrS
            straight6pwr
            wrote on last edited by
            #144

            garagistic has a little chart on m62 wiring: http://garagistic.com/index.php?page=e30-m60-wiring

            i can't find any wiring diagrams online to identify that white 12-pin connector.

            Dan
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            • CMartC
              CMartC
              CMart
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              #145

              Thanks guys.

              Not getting fuel/spark.

              I need to make sure my motor is ground, doing that today after work.

              Dan - I think you did just find it on that link - any idea what B/S mean? Wouldn't the socket and pin housing be the same?

              That would make sense too because the only thing I was using for that white 12-pin was the starter out. I wasn't putting any V in to power the DME etc.

              Edit - the table didn't show - it is the one at the bottom of the link you used.

              PIN ASSIGNMENTS (AKA X6011) Pin   Description B: Socket housing
              S: Pin housing
              1   Terminal 15 B: Unloader relay terminal 15     S: Ignition switch 2   Terminal 15 B: DME control unit     S: Fuse F14 3   Start signal terminal 50 B: Start relay     S: Electronic immobilizer control unit (EWS) 4   Diagnosis signal TXD B: Connector TXD     S: Connector TXD 5   Not used         6   Terminal 15 B: Connector terminal 15     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 7   Terminal 87 B: Connector, terminal 87     S: Fuse F31 8   Signal, terminal 50 B: DME control unit     S: Ignition switch 9   Signal, alternator D+ (terminal 61) B: Generator     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 10   Remote thermometer signal (negative) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 11   Remote thermometer signal (positive) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 12   Ground activation, terminal 85 B: DME control unit     S: Fuel pump relay 1

              Excursion 7.3
              E30 LS1

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              • B
                B
                B C
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                #146

                DME needs to see timing data from the crank sensor/trigger wheel to run the fuel pump and generate spark

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                • CMartC
                  CMartC
                  CMart
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #147

                  Crank and cam are hooked up.

                  Excursion 7.3
                  E30 LS1

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    #148

                    CMart said:

                    Crank and cam are hooked up.

                    DME isn't bad?

                    I had an issue where my swap would randomly shut off while driving but the DME was still getting power. It would start back up but would do it randomly. Put in a new main relay and different DME and now it's perfect. I also re-went over my grounds. Harness, engine, injector rail and my e fan

                    Do you have a different DME you can try easily?

                    Fuel pump primes when key is turned?

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                    • CMartC
                      CMartC
                      CMart
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #149

                      DME is brand new - tested after the tune.

                      I have ground, but not sure about having it on the fuel rail. Are you sure the V8 rail needs ground as well?

                      Excursion 7.3
                      E30 LS1

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                      • CMartC
                        CMartC
                        CMart
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #150

                        Don't mind the video - just turn up your speakers...

                        Excursion 7.3
                        E30 LS1

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                        • straight6pwrS
                          straight6pwrS
                          straight6pwr
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                          #151

                          so you got it?

                          my best guess for this was it was referring to which side of the connector and where it is headed. Basically male(pin)/female(socket) for that junction and everything 'socket' was on the side headed towards the body/other controllers and everything 'pin' was on the side headed to the DME. so your white connector is the 'pin' side, and the the 'socket' side is where its headed toward on the body.

                          B: Socket housing
                          S: Pin housing

                          i wasnt positive, though, because your connector is missing some pins that are listed in the chart, although cars can differ from year to year

                          Dan
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                          • CMartC
                            CMartC
                            CMart
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                            #152

                            Yeeep.

                            A little trial and error and boom.

                            Now all the little wires, straighten up some of the routings, bleed the brakes/clutch and give it some abuse on Sunday.

                            Excursion 7.3
                            E30 LS1

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                            • wasnt m3W
                              wasnt m3W
                              wasnt m3
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                              #153

                              Congrats! Definitely looking forward to seeing/hearing this thing in person!

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #154

                                Yes! Was it the pin connector thing ?

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                                • straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwr
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                                  #155

                                  sweet! also cant wait to see it

                                  Dan
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                                  • CMartC
                                    CMartC
                                    CMart
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                                    #156

                                    Yes:

                                    The two green wires needed 12v. One to activate the fuel pump relay, red/white wire, (which I was using a go around for) and the other to turn the ECU on. 

                                    Black is starter which is hooked up to the C101.

                                    Ordered a huge Z3M 3 row mishi last night to keep it cool. Hoping to get it on the road Sunday and have the bugs worked out for the fall meet.

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                                    Excursion 7.3
                                    E30 LS1

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                                    • ClassEC
                                      ClassEC
                                      ClassE
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                                      #157

                                      Awesome - glad you got this running!

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                                      • CMartC
                                        CMartC
                                        CMart
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #158

                                        Me. Fn. Too.

                                        Excursion 7.3
                                        E30 LS1

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                                        • CMartC
                                          CMartC
                                          CMart
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                                          #159

                                          She moved under her own power today. All of 2 feet, but happy with the progress.

                                          Video of it running in better light:

                                          Excursion 7.3
                                          E30 LS1

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