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    xgeetx
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    http://imgur.com/SaDzEbX

    Is that where the crank position sensor is supposed to be??! Looking at images there should definitely be something there... is it possible it hasn't been there for a while or can the engine absolutely not run without it?

    Edit: Looks like that was the sensor position for OBD1 engines? I guess the mystery continues!

    IT STARTED. After I unhooked the MAF and removed the air filter (maybe unnecessary), it started up. It had a really shakey idle for a bit then seemed to calm down. It smells absolutely terrible. Very exhausty around the engine and in the cabin. I now have a headache.

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    • jc43089J
      jc43089J
      jc43089
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      Oops, I forgot something that I recently learned, obd2 has the CPS at the back of the crankshaft.  No worries about that then.

      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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        xgeetx
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        Hmmmm. So letting it idle for a bit, the only abnormal sound is the fan rubbing the duct tape I have holding my overflow hose up, since the fan shroud is snapped. I haven't attempted to drive it since it's still missing a front end.

        Any idea what the bad exhaust smell is? Is that from continuous failed starts? Maybe put a lot of fuel in the cylinders or something? Maybe it's just from idling? Any ideas on that?

        Here was the sound when it wouldn't start...

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          You may be correct on the smell from lots of cranking without firing.  I have found with mine that if I start it just to move the car and shut it off without running it for more than a minute it will run very rough the next time I start it.  I'm not sure if it fouls the plugs or why but my m50 and m20 and our Maxima are all that way.

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          • NarcosisN
            NarcosisN
            Narcosis
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            Have you pulled & inspected the plugs?

            What happened to the car?

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            • NarcosisN
              NarcosisN
              Narcosis
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              jc43089 said:

              You may be correct on the smell from lots of cranking without firing.  I have found with mine that if I start it just to move the car and shut it off without running it for more than a minute it will run very rough the next time I start it.  I'm not sure if it fouls the plugs or why but my m50 and m20 and our Maxima are all that way.

              It sounds like your fleet of cars needs a tune up.

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                xgeetx
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                Narcosis said:

                Have you pulled & inspected the plugs?

                What happened to the car?

                Hey narcosis! I have not pulled and inspected the plugs. I pulled a couple coils and looked down the tube to see if there was anything bizarre, but there wasn't. Maybe I should pull all the coils? I changed the plugs about 700 miles ago, so I doubt they're part of it... but if you recommend I still take a look I definitely will!

                As far as what happened, I rear-ended someone. I have some pics on the "Well Crap :(" thread if you're curious.

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                • jc43089J
                  jc43089J
                  jc43089
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                  Narcosis said:

                  It sounds like your fleet of cars needs a tune up.

                  They are freshly tuned, no issues there.  Only happens when starting and moving the car a couple feet and shutting it off so that it only ran for 15-30 seconds.  It will just run rough for a few seconds on startup the next time.  Not sure if newer ones are better but try it sometime.

                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  • DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFootD
                    DrLeadFoot
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                    Is there some sort of "reset" button that needs to be switched after an accident? 

                    My buddy had a Grand Marquis that didn't start until he google'd the issue. The Doc don't no des new cars...

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                         @DrLeadFoot

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      DrLeadFoot said:

                      Is there some sort of "reset" button that needs to be switched after an accident? 

                      My buddy had a Grand Marquis that didn't start until he google'd the issue. The Doc don't no des new cars...

                      There shouldn't be.

                      The Grand Marquis has a fuel shut off valve that is standard on all Ford products.  That thing can be set by hip checking the body or a loud subwoofer as well.

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                        xgeetx
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                        Checked down in all the plug wells (holes?) for oil, and didn't find any. It now starts even with the MAF plugged in but it runs a little rough. The car has a distinct vibration. Could this be because the fan is missing some fins? I wouldn't think that imbalance has much effect, but thought I'd add it :P

                        After letting it idle a few minutes, the temperature seemed fine, but the engine started to smoke from the area I show here: http://imgur.com/CGYmJAg

                        The smoke wasn't very thick, but was white/gray. It smelled 'burnt', but I'm not attuned to the standard engine smoking smells. It didn't smell sweet like coolant, but I don't know what burning coolant smells like!

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                        • wasnt m3W
                          wasnt m3W
                          wasnt m3
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                          That smell is oil burning off your exhaust manifold due to a leaky valve cover gasket. I'm sure it was bad before the accident, you're just smelling it now because the car's been sitting.

                          m3sig-1.jpg

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                            xgeetx
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                            Hmmm so it was probably smoking before too? Should I be able to see something dripping in that area?

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                            • patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1
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                              xgeetx said:

                              Hmmm so it was probably smoking before too? Should I be able to see something dripping in that area?

                              You could try a mirror just under the valve cover where it meets the head and you will see some moisture but I have never experienced a leaky valve cover where it was bad enough to watch it drip out.  Usually it's a very slow run.  If you turn your heat on while parked and running you will smell it through your vents.

                              I have always thought of the valve cover gaskets as a maintenance item as soon as I bought an e36.

                              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                              95 325is *sold*
                              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                              BMWCCA #473306

                              Instagram @patsbimmer1

                              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                xgeetx
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                                To be fair, it has been leaking for a while, and I've been told about it... I just always monitored my oil level and didn't think a slow leak was a big deal. If that leak triggers a smokey engine, sounds like it's time to replace it. I'm scarred from the time I attempted to change it on a Nissan several years ago and it ended up spraying (literally) oil all over the engine.

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                                  patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1
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                                  I would get it done as soon as you can but I haven't heard of them getting that bad!

                                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                  95 325is *sold*
                                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                  BMWCCA #473306

                                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                    xgeetx
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                                    patsbimmer1 said:

                                    I would get it done as soon as you can but I haven't heard of them getting that bad!

                                    How bad? Are you surprised it's causing smoke?

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                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
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                                      xgeetx said:

                                      How bad? Are you surprised it's causing smoke?

                                      I have seen them cause smoke but I have never heard of them spraying oil like you mentioned with your Nissan.  Sorry for my delayed response as I am sure you have been waiting in suspense for my answer lol.

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                        xgeetx
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                                        #30

                                        Haha! Maybe a little bit.

                                        The spraying I think was because I didn't seat the gasket on correctly, and then drove around. It appeared to have "sprayed" because the engine was covered in oil, but perhaps I exaggerated a bit :).

                                        Got a new radiator fan, radiator mount (holy shit only $39 on ebay w/ free shipping), and the cap & bleed screw for my expansion tank. Waiting on the gasket to get here and then we'll see how it all goes! I'm hoping the engine was shaking because of the now-asymmetrical radiator fan... hence the new one I ordered.

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