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Jake's Epic BMW 135i Build Thread! (5+ Years of Ownership)

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  • suspencefulS
    suspencefulS
    suspenceful
    wrote on last edited by
    #527

    HipMF said:

    That sucks.

    If possible, check that the valves are seating before tearing the head off/pulling the motor. Could be something dumb like a broken lock/retainer ring/piece of something stuck in there/etc.

    Did a wet test. Tablespoon of oil boosted compression from 80 to 120psi. I'm 99.9% sure it's a ring or ringland. Leakdown and borescope this week.

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    • patsbimmer1P
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      patsbimmer1
      wrote on last edited by
      #528

      suspenceful said:

      Did a wet test. Tablespoon of oil boosted compression from 80 to 120psi. I'm 99.9% sure it's a ring or ringland. Leakdown and borescope this week.

      That would definitely indicate a ring problem.  Easy fix if the cylinder walls are fine!  Fingers crossed!

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      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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      • suspencefulS
        suspencefulS
        suspenceful
        wrote on last edited by
        #529

        patsbimmer1 said:

        That would definitely indicate a ring problem.  Easy fix if the cylinder walls are fine!  Fingers crossed!

        I don't know if "easy" is the right word, lol. Getting in there to replace a piston isn't a walk in the park.

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
          #530

          It books as a 30+ hr job.  It's time consuming but easy.  Especially when you consider the cost of a used engine... much easier on the wallet.  Just get Paul to "help" lol.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
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          • patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1
            wrote on last edited by
            #531

            In contrast, r&r engine is about 28 book hours.

            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
            95 325is *sold*
            93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

            BMWCCA #473306

            Instagram @patsbimmer1

            AKA- HALLWAY PAT

            "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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            • IceddragonI
              IceddragonI
              Iceddragon
              wrote on last edited by
              #532

              Pardon my ignorance, what exactly happened with this? What did those numbers mean? I'm assuming cylinder pressure?

              I love this build and you guys sound like its dead 😦

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              • JeffJ
                JeffJ
                Jeff
                wrote on last edited by
                #533

                patsbimmer1 said:

                It books as a 30+ hr job.  It's time consuming but easy.  Especially when you consider the cost of a used engine... much easier on the wallet.  Just get Paul to "help" lol.

                Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

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                1990 325ix e30
                1992 325i e36
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                • patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #534

                  Jeff said:

                  Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

                  Not to sidetrack the thread but yes.  Honestly they UNDER estimate a lot of this shit.  They don't take rust and wear into consideration.

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                  BMWCCA #473306

                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  • i_love_carsI
                    i_love_carsI
                    i_love_cars
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #535

                    just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                    you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #536

                      i_love_cars said:

                      just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                      you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

                      Why do you have rocks in your bathroom?

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                      • suspencefulS
                        suspencefulS
                        suspenceful
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #537

                        Iceddragon said:

                        Pardon my ignorance, what exactly happened with this? What did those numbers mean? I'm assuming cylinder pressure?

                        I love this build and you guys sound like its dead 😦

                        It lost compression on cylinder #3, motor is constantly misfiring and running rough. Needs to be repaired internally or replaced.

                        Chances are, it's gonna be a while until the car is back on the road. I don't have the funds.

                        Jeff said:

                        Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

                        True, but to be fair, I bet this is accurate. I spent a lot of time replacing the turbos and would assume pulling the motor and re-installing it would probably take awhile.

                        i_love_cars said:

                        just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                        you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

                        I'm fully aware of the situation I'm in. Problem is, I don't have the funds.

                        Care to share links to motors in WI with less than 50k miles? I've found a couple for ~$2500, but this was the lowest mileage one I could find locally.

                        http://bayauto.com/used-parts/BMW/BMW_335I/BH0380/2007/Engine_Assembly/1001605770

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                        • i_love_carsI
                          i_love_carsI
                          i_love_cars
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #538

                          It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

                          I was thinking something like this: 

                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

                          Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done.

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                          • suspencefulS
                            suspencefulS
                            suspenceful
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #539

                            i_love_cars said:

                            It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

                            I was thinking something like this: 

                            http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

                            Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done. 

                            That's a great example. Good price, lower miles, and comes with crap I can sell.

                            To take out another credit card or not... 😒

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                            • patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1
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                              #540

                              This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

                              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                              95 325is *sold*
                              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                              BMWCCA #473306

                              Instagram @patsbimmer1

                              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                              • suspencefulS
                                suspencefulS
                                suspenceful
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #541

                                patsbimmer1 said:

                                This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

                                Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

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                                • i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_cars
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #542

                                  suspenceful said:

                                  Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

                                  "are you guys able to source used/refurbished engines for my 2008 BMW 135i? "

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                                  2003 E39 M5
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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    B C
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #543

                                    www.car-part.com

                                    whatever you do don't sign up for any engine locating services, your phone will ring nonstop for an hour, then with greater than average frequency for the next week or two

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #544

                                      suspenceful said:

                                      Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

                                      i_love_cars said:

                                      "are you guys able to source used/refurbished engines for my 2008 BMW 135i? " 

                                      Yup, that's about it.  We use them at work mostly for wheels, steering knucles, wheel covers, etc.  They've been able to pull through on some weird stuff though.  If the counter person doesn't know what you're talking about then ask to speak with someone in commercial.  Worst case scenario I know a few commercial sales managers and strategic account managers with them and I can get you in touch with someone who can help.

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
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                                        #545

                                        Theres also this

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                                        • suspencefulS
                                          suspencefulS
                                          suspenceful
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #546

                                          Snap said:

                                          www.car-part.com

                                          whatever you do don't sign up for any engine locating services, your phone will ring nonstop for an hour, then with greater than average frequency for the next week or two

                                          I've already searched car-part.com. That's how I found the 335i motor in Green Bay, but not a whole lot else to write home about.

                                          Snap said:

                                          Theres also this

                                          Yeah, I already texted the guy yesterday but no response. My friend has a broken N54 that I could steal a piston from if I decided to go that route.

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