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Jake's Epic BMW 135i Build Thread! (5+ Years of Ownership)

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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1
    wrote on last edited by
    #536

    i_love_cars said:

    just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

    you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

    Why do you have rocks in your bathroom?

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
    95 325is *sold*
    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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    • suspencefulS
      suspencefulS
      suspenceful
      wrote on last edited by
      #537

      Iceddragon said:

      Pardon my ignorance, what exactly happened with this? What did those numbers mean? I'm assuming cylinder pressure?

      I love this build and you guys sound like its dead 😦

      It lost compression on cylinder #3, motor is constantly misfiring and running rough. Needs to be repaired internally or replaced.

      Chances are, it's gonna be a while until the car is back on the road. I don't have the funds.

      Jeff said:

      Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

      True, but to be fair, I bet this is accurate. I spent a lot of time replacing the turbos and would assume pulling the motor and re-installing it would probably take awhile.

      i_love_cars said:

      just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

      you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

      I'm fully aware of the situation I'm in. Problem is, I don't have the funds.

      Care to share links to motors in WI with less than 50k miles? I've found a couple for ~$2500, but this was the lowest mileage one I could find locally.

      http://bayauto.com/used-parts/BMW/BMW_335I/BH0380/2007/Engine_Assembly/1001605770

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      • i_love_carsI
        i_love_carsI
        i_love_cars
        wrote on last edited by
        #538

        It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

        I was thinking something like this: 

        http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

        Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done.

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        2007 Z4MR 
        2003 E39 M5
        2002 E46 M3
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        • suspencefulS
          suspencefulS
          suspenceful
          wrote on last edited by
          #539

          i_love_cars said:

          It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

          I was thinking something like this: 

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

          Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done. 

          That's a great example. Good price, lower miles, and comes with crap I can sell.

          To take out another credit card or not... 😒

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          • patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1P
            patsbimmer1
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            #540

            This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
            95 325is *sold*
            93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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            Instagram @patsbimmer1

            AKA- HALLWAY PAT

            "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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            • suspencefulS
              suspencefulS
              suspenceful
              wrote on last edited by
              #541

              patsbimmer1 said:

              This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

              Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

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              • i_love_carsI
                i_love_carsI
                i_love_cars
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                #542

                suspenceful said:

                Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

                "are you guys able to source used/refurbished engines for my 2008 BMW 135i? "

                IMG6593.jpg

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                2007 Z4MR 
                2003 E39 M5
                2002 E46 M3
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                • B
                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #543

                  www.car-part.com

                  whatever you do don't sign up for any engine locating services, your phone will ring nonstop for an hour, then with greater than average frequency for the next week or two

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                  • patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #544

                    suspenceful said:

                    Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

                    i_love_cars said:

                    "are you guys able to source used/refurbished engines for my 2008 BMW 135i? " 

                    Yup, that's about it.  We use them at work mostly for wheels, steering knucles, wheel covers, etc.  They've been able to pull through on some weird stuff though.  If the counter person doesn't know what you're talking about then ask to speak with someone in commercial.  Worst case scenario I know a few commercial sales managers and strategic account managers with them and I can get you in touch with someone who can help.

                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                    95 325is *sold*
                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                    BMWCCA #473306

                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #545

                      Theres also this

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                      • suspencefulS
                        suspencefulS
                        suspenceful
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #546

                        Snap said:

                        www.car-part.com

                        whatever you do don't sign up for any engine locating services, your phone will ring nonstop for an hour, then with greater than average frequency for the next week or two

                        I've already searched car-part.com. That's how I found the 335i motor in Green Bay, but not a whole lot else to write home about.

                        Snap said:

                        Theres also this

                        Yeah, I already texted the guy yesterday but no response. My friend has a broken N54 that I could steal a piston from if I decided to go that route.

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                        • suspencefulS
                          suspencefulS
                          suspenceful
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #547

                          I finally saved up enough $$$$ and picked up an engine from a local junkyard.

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                          It came out of a 2008 335i 6MT with 91,223 miles. The car was hit pretty hard on the driver's side, so I'm not worried about flood damage or anything like that. It was also modified, so I'm hoping it was taken care of by an enthusiast.

                          I've noticed all index 11 injectors, an RB PCV valve/cap, and it looks spotless under the oil cap. No sludge, grime, buildup, or discoloration. Hoping this is a sign of frequent oil changes.

                          Hoping to start tearing the car apart so I can remove the blown motor and swap everything over before the end of the year!

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #548

                            Exciting stuff!!

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                            • suspencefulS
                              suspencefulS
                              suspenceful
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #549

                              A quick Google search of the VIN that the engine was from brought up some interesting results.

                              The car was definitely modded...

                              This is what I thought it looked like:

                              https://bayauto.com/used-parts/BMW/BMW_335I/BH1363/2008

                              Looks like it was for sale in Chicago with 82k miles a year or two ago. Whoever crashed it, put it as back to stock as they could before sending it to the scrap yard.

                              I reached out to a few dealerships that came up in it's service history, asking if they had documentation for the car. Anything is better than nothing, just because I'm a curious guy.

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                              • suspencefulS
                                suspencefulS
                                suspenceful
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #550

                                After more creeping, I found the last owner before the car was junked. He had an outstanding friend request to me on Facebook that I never accepted. Last picture he posted with the car was in February of this year. I just messaged him for more info. I should be a detective.

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                                • GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGrey
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                                  #551

                                  This is amusing to me. 
                                  I also fear for the condition of the motor slightly lol

                                  ...

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                                  • suspencefulS
                                    suspencefulS
                                    suspenceful
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #552

                                    GunMetalGrey said:

                                    This is amusing to me. 
                                    I also fear for the condition of the motor slightly lol

                                    Yeah, after figuring out it was him, my hope that it had been well taken care of went right out the window.

                                    37067911653ee8898fc9bc.jpg

                                    I think I'm gonna have to compression test this one on the stand before doing anything else... and look up the return policy.

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                                    • m42b32M
                                      m42b32M
                                      m42b32
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #553

                                      Nice sleuthing. At least you found out these things before you spent a lot of time swapping it in...

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #554

                                        A+ sleuthing indeed. I wouldn't even want to find out that a lawnmower engine I bought was bad after spending 15 minutes swapping it. Let alone an N54 that you may have thrown a ton of "while your in there" parts on.

                                        scary stuff.

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                                        • R
                                          R
                                          REKIII
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #555

                                          Why didn't you just pull one of the engines out of the 7 BMW's you sold over the last 3 days?  One should have been good 😉

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