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Jake's Epic BMW 135i Build Thread! (5+ Years of Ownership)

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    Daggerty
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    #522

    When you do a compression test there is two possible results good or wibimmers.

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      #523

      Daggerty said:

      When you do a compression test there is two possible results good or wibimmers.

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      • HipMFH
        HipMFH
        HipMF
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        #524

        That sucks.

        If possible, check that the valves are seating before tearing the head off/pulling the motor. Could be something dumb like a broken lock/retainer ring/piece of something stuck in there/etc.

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          B C
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          • JdesignJ
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            Jdesign
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            Super bummer man. Like HipMF said, check everything before claiming sudden death.

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            • suspencefulS
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              suspenceful
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              #527

              HipMF said:

              That sucks.

              If possible, check that the valves are seating before tearing the head off/pulling the motor. Could be something dumb like a broken lock/retainer ring/piece of something stuck in there/etc.

              Did a wet test. Tablespoon of oil boosted compression from 80 to 120psi. I'm 99.9% sure it's a ring or ringland. Leakdown and borescope this week.

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              • patsbimmer1P
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                patsbimmer1
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                suspenceful said:

                Did a wet test. Tablespoon of oil boosted compression from 80 to 120psi. I'm 99.9% sure it's a ring or ringland. Leakdown and borescope this week.

                That would definitely indicate a ring problem.  Easy fix if the cylinder walls are fine!  Fingers crossed!

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                • suspencefulS
                  suspencefulS
                  suspenceful
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                  #529

                  patsbimmer1 said:

                  That would definitely indicate a ring problem.  Easy fix if the cylinder walls are fine!  Fingers crossed!

                  I don't know if "easy" is the right word, lol. Getting in there to replace a piston isn't a walk in the park.

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                  • patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1
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                    #530

                    It books as a 30+ hr job.  It's time consuming but easy.  Especially when you consider the cost of a used engine... much easier on the wallet.  Just get Paul to "help" lol.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      #531

                      In contrast, r&r engine is about 28 book hours.

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                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
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                      • IceddragonI
                        IceddragonI
                        Iceddragon
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #532

                        Pardon my ignorance, what exactly happened with this? What did those numbers mean? I'm assuming cylinder pressure?

                        I love this build and you guys sound like its dead 😦

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                        • JeffJ
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                          Jeff
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                          #533

                          patsbimmer1 said:

                          It books as a 30+ hr job.  It's time consuming but easy.  Especially when you consider the cost of a used engine... much easier on the wallet.  Just get Paul to "help" lol.

                          Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #534

                            Jeff said:

                            Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

                            Not to sidetrack the thread but yes.  Honestly they UNDER estimate a lot of this shit.  They don't take rust and wear into consideration.

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                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
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                            • i_love_carsI
                              i_love_carsI
                              i_love_cars
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                              #535

                              just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                              you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them.

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                              • patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1
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                                #536

                                i_love_cars said:

                                just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                                you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

                                Why do you have rocks in your bathroom?

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                                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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                                • suspencefulS
                                  suspencefulS
                                  suspenceful
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #537

                                  Iceddragon said:

                                  Pardon my ignorance, what exactly happened with this? What did those numbers mean? I'm assuming cylinder pressure?

                                  I love this build and you guys sound like its dead 😦

                                  It lost compression on cylinder #3, motor is constantly misfiring and running rough. Needs to be repaired internally or replaced.

                                  Chances are, it's gonna be a while until the car is back on the road. I don't have the funds.

                                  Jeff said:

                                  Its crazy how long shop times are sometimes.

                                  True, but to be fair, I bet this is accurate. I spent a lot of time replacing the turbos and would assume pulling the motor and re-installing it would probably take awhile.

                                  i_love_cars said:

                                  just get a used motor. It's gonna cost you $1500 in parts to do a full rebuild which is the only acceptable answer if you are tearing down the engine in the first place. You're not just gonna replace 1 ring or 1 piston. You're gonna do a complete overhaul including pistons. Then you need to make sure you do it right, and whether or not you did it right becomes far more obvious when you're making +350 whp/tq over factory power. So you'll be spending a lot of time here. The engine has too many miles on it to NOT overhaul everything if you tear it down. 

                                  you need to pull the motor regardless, so factoring in what your time is worth, you'll have a lot of hours into a teardown/rebuild on top of pulling/reinstalling the motor. Considering a used motor with less than half the miles on your current engine can be had for $3k and it's a straight swap, I wouldn't even be considering a rebuild. N54 motors are a commodity. When you grenade one, you just go get a used one and replace it. That's just what you do. This isn't an old M50 or something where finding good used examples is hard to do and you have to be more serious about rebuilding (plus parts are way cheaper for those anyway). I can throw a rock out the window and hit 5 n54 motors on the used market within walking distance of my bathroom all with 50k miles on them. 

                                  I'm fully aware of the situation I'm in. Problem is, I don't have the funds.

                                  Care to share links to motors in WI with less than 50k miles? I've found a couple for ~$2500, but this was the lowest mileage one I could find locally.

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                                    i_love_cars
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                                    It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

                                    I was thinking something like this: 

                                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

                                    Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done.

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                                    • suspencefulS
                                      suspencefulS
                                      suspenceful
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #539

                                      i_love_cars said:

                                      It was a general point about how easy it is to locate used N54 motors and I was trying to bring humor to a shitty situation. Not that I literally know of super low mileage motors within a short radius to us here in WI. 

                                      I was thinking something like this: 

                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-135i-335i-3-0L-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Motor-Dropout-Free-Shipping-71k/152663897833?epid=874569161&fits=Make%3ABMW|Model%3A335i&hash=item238b7a36e9%3Ag%3AlPkAAOSwj8JZkiEC

                                      Comes with turbos and other components. You could part some of that out and have the motor for less than $2k easily when all is said and done. 

                                      That's a great example. Good price, lower miles, and comes with crap I can sell.

                                      To take out another credit card or not... 😒

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                                      • patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1
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                                        This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

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                                        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                        95 325is *sold*
                                        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                                        • suspencefulS
                                          suspencefulS
                                          suspenceful
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                                          #541

                                          patsbimmer1 said:

                                          This might sound out there but check with Advance Auto if you have one nearby.  They work with a network of auto recyclers and might be able to find something for you.

                                          Really? How would I even begin to start this conversation? Lol.

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