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Chapter GMW | E30 LS1 (starting on post #1427)

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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
    wrote on last edited by
    #581

    There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

    Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

    Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

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    • mkoeppM
      mkoeppM
      mkoepp
      wrote on last edited by
      #582

      jc43089 said:

      I mentioned the safety wire because the nut looks like a drilled one.

      The base of the thread looks knurled too. That lock washer looks out of place.

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        #583

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          tsweers89
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          #584

          DrLeadFoot said:

          This might be in my future.

          http://store.vacmotorsports.com/harmonic-damper-bmw-m50-m52-m54--s50-us-s52-us-p756.aspx#

          Not something really needed with your set up but again once you are ready let me know. As usual I get these cheaper then VAC (aka vac overcharges on a lot of things)

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          • DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFoot
            wrote on last edited by
            #585

            Snap said:

            WAY TOO SOON!!!! haha

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                 @DrLeadFoot

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            • DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFootD
              DrLeadFoot
              wrote on last edited by
              #586

              GunMetalGrey said:

              There should be no lock washer between the nut and the gear, and your pump nut has most certainly been drilled.

              Did you build this part of the engine or did the shop?

              Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

              I didn't build it and the shop "doesn't recall" what they did with the nut.

              Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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                   @DrLeadFoot

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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
                wrote on last edited by
                #587

                Something is out of place with how that was done. Breaking shafts is no good no matter how you slice it! 

                Pun intended

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                • DrLeadFootD
                  DrLeadFootD
                  DrLeadFoot
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #588

                  Some more carnage pics. The hole on the nut doesn't go all the way through.

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                  bypyhemy.jpg

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                       @DrLeadFoot

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                    #589

                    I am no expert,

                    but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

                    My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      #590

                      Snap said:

                      I am no expert,

                      but, my theory is the nut backed off due to heat reducing the effectiveness of the spring washer, as well as the other factors inherent to the oil pump design that cause the nut to back off. From the dark spot with some faint chevron marks, I would believe it to be a bending fatigue failure and due to the ratchet marks around the outer diameter, it looks like the nut gradually lost tension (because of the spring washer getting weaker etc) and the shaft failed over time, could have been weeks, could have been hours, but the cause of the shaft failing wasnt sudden and catastrophic as if it was too brittle or hit with too much torque. 

                      My point being that I personally would not hesitate to replace it with a regular OE oil pump+shaft as long as something is done to prevent the nut from backing off. 

                      Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                      BMWCCA #473306

                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                        #591

                        patsbimmer1 said:

                        Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

                        no, but im sure my bed is just as uncomfortable.

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                        • DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFoot
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #592

                          No dice on the GSR pump.

                          6u8yvume.jpg

                          I think I will get a replacement for the pump I already have and weld that nut.

                          With the savings I will more than likely get the harmonic dampener to try to calm down that engine and prevent anything else from rattling/snapping loose.

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                               @DrLeadFoot

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #593

                            If you ain't breakin' parts, you ain't makin' nuff powa!

                            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
                            93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                            BMWCCA #473306

                            Instagram @patsbimmer1

                            AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                            "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #594

                              If you ain't mixin' gas, you ain't hauling ass.

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                              You should see my weed whacker whack weeds.

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                              • DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFootD
                                DrLeadFoot
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #595

                                #6 bottom rod bearing. Looks good to me!

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                                     @DrLeadFoot

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #596

                                  Talk about a bearing relief

                                  hawhawhawhaw

                                  enginerd.jpg

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                                  • DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFootD
                                    DrLeadFoot
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #597

                                    Snap said:

                                    Talk about a bearing relief

                                    hawhawhawhaw

                                    Gonna get 100% confirmation from my machinist right now.

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                                         @DrLeadFoot

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #598

                                      http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Upgraded-Oil-Pump-New-BMW-M-p/11-am-uopn.htm

                                      I just ordered this along with their oil pan baffle. 

                                      I also bought a new Jesus bolt and washer to go with it.  While I was turning over the motor to pull the #6 rod bearing I noticed the bolt loosening while the crank was staying in the same place.  I'm glad I found this before it broke again.

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFootD
                                        DrLeadFoot
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #599

                                        I'm also going to check all of my rod bearings for wear. Boris with the 8 second independent rear suspension e30 talked me into it.

                                        He said the ARP bolts need to be torqued to 43ft/lbs with the ARP torque lube. That's better than doing the 25ft/lbs then turned an additional 55 degrees that K1 told me to do.

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                                             @DrLeadFoot

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                                          #600

                                          I have  mine torqued up around 70 ft-lb per VAC Motorsports' instructions. They appear to be for both 12v and 24v engines. I can scan them if you would like.

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