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  • SteelBlueS
    SteelBlueS
    SteelBlue
    wrote on last edited by
    #385

    Well, used the reverse bleeder and got some pedal feel but not great. Was going to use @jc43089 method of just pumping it a little bit every now and then, pumped it like 5-10 times and the slave shot the dowel out again. Dowel is in the bell housing. 

    I just don’t understand what I’m doing wrong. Slave was protruding off the bell housing studs before I tightened them down, so I’m figured it was on. 

    Trans is probably going to have to come off now. Know that’s a bitch and not exactly motivated to do that.

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    • B
      B
      B C
      wrote on last edited by
      #386

      Aww crap!

      I have to wonder if you have the right throwout bearing, slave cyl, or just verify that the TOB is installed correctly.

      i dont want to tell you to make an access hole in your bellhousing that you can put a plug into, but at this rate....

      real sorry man, i remember reading similar tales on R3V long ago

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      • SteelBlueS
        SteelBlueS
        SteelBlue
        wrote on last edited by
        #387

        B C said:

        Aww crap!

        I have to wonder if you have the right throwout bearing, slave cyl, or just verify that the TOB is installed correctly.

        i dont want to tell you to make an access hole in your bellhousing that you can put a plug into, but at this rate....

        real sorry man, i remember reading similar tales on R3V long ago

        Was thinking the same thing in the shower.

        Really not sure what I'm gonna do at this point. If someone wants some extra cash hit me up. Or if someone wants a 95% complete S52 swapped E30, hit me up.

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        • YoungCRY
          YoungCRY
          YoungCR
          wrote on last edited by
          #388

          I feel your pain, I went through at least 4 slaves and a couple masters ultimately figuring out my clutch was toast on my E34. Not exactly sure how the TOB position was affected but it was.

          Chris Young
          BMWCCA #458972
          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          • JdesignJ
            JdesignJ
            Jdesign
            wrote on last edited by
            #389

            Interesting as it seems this is a common issue. With little searching I just found about 5 threads about clutch bleeding/ slaves issues.

            One guy said he had a bad pressure plate right out of the box, another said it was the clutch fork, another said it was the plastic pin 🤔

            https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605869&page=2

            https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=256720&page=2

            Also, If the pin is shooting out I would assume there is too much throw? I would unbolt the slave and stick a magnet through the hole to get the pin rather than dropping the trans FYI. I know its on the side but its worth a shot.

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
              wrote on last edited by
              #390

              If the pin is seated on the clutch fork properly how can it shoot out?  The only way it can shoot out is something allowing it to overextend.  I don't remember what your clutch setup was.  What stuff do you have matched up?  And did you compare the stack height to the stock stack height?

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
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              • KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRolls
                wrote on last edited by
                #391

                jc43089 said:

                If the pin is seated on the clutch fork properly how can it shoot out?  

                My q as well. If it’s all zf bits in the trans I’m not sure how it would fall out

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                • SteelBlueS
                  SteelBlueS
                  SteelBlue
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #392

                  jc43089 said:

                  If the pin is seated on the clutch fork properly how can it shoot out?  The only way it can shoot out is something allowing it to overextend.  I don't remember what your clutch setup was.  What stuff do you have matched up?  And did you compare the stack height to the stock stack height?

                  This is the clutch and flywheel I am using:

                  https://gripforce.com/fx-racing-stage-1-clutch-kit-and-flywheel-set-bmw-325-328-525-528-m3-z3-e34-e36-e39/

                  I was probably a little hasty in assuming that everything is direct replacements. I assumed based off of the product listing applications that because this was for an E36 M3 that it would work.

                  Or it’s my own fault and have installed something incorrectly in the trans. However, I followed the Pelican Parts clutch replacement guide and made sure everything was correct. The car had moved under its own power before I had replaced the clutch. I’m guess I’m not sure where the disconnect is between driving and now this.

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                  • G
                    G
                    gilber33
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #393

                    Clutches stress me out so bad. Every time I have done one I always stress myself out because you have no idea if you did it completely right until the car is back together and running. 

                    I once had a 2x4 scrap piece that I wedged between the back of the block and the firewall to hold the engine in place fall into the bell housing as I was putting the transmission back in. Luckily it didn't do any damage and just made a rattle. 

                    Moral of the story, I am of no help here but it unfortunately sounds like something is not sitting right or spaced correctly and the transmission has to come back off. 😑

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                    • SteelBlueS
                      SteelBlueS
                      SteelBlue
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #394

                      gilber33 said:

                      Clutches stress me out so bad. Every time I have done one I always stress myself out because you have no idea if you did it completely right until the car is back together and running. 

                      I once had a 2x4 scrap piece that I wedged between the back of the block and the firewall to hold the engine in place fall into the bell housing as I was putting the transmission back in. Luckily it didn't do any damage and just made a rattle. 

                      Moral of the story, I am of no help here but it unfortunately sounds like something is not sitting right or spaced correctly and the transmission has to come back off. 😑

                      Yep, this has been one of my least favorite things to do so far.

                      Pretty sure I have to pull the motor as the I don’t think the top trans bolts can’t be accessed even with letting the motor hang with the trans brace off.

                      Stoked...

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                      • KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRolls
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #395

                        SteelBlue said:

                        Yep, this has been one of my least favorite things to do so far.

                        Pretty sure I have to pull the motor as the I don’t think the top trans bolts can’t be accessed even with letting the motor hang with the trans brace off.

                        Stoked...

                        I pulled my trans with motor still in place. Solid mounts, did not loosen them at all (still had about an inch/2 of movement). Just takes a shit load of extensions and an impact

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #396

                          Long extensions and maybe with a wobble extension as the last one.  Don't use a universal, too wobbly.

                          You used all the pieces from the kit including the throwout bearing?

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #397

                            jc43089 said:

                            Long extensions and maybe with a wobble extension as the last one.  Don't use a universal, too wobbly.

                            You used all the pieces from the kit including the throwout bearing?

                            This is what it took for me

                            also with that gripforce kit use an OEM pilot/TOB if you can. The ones in the kit are less than ideal. (I have removed ones sitting on my bench with like 3k miles and they’re shot) 

                            8433AD9F-6014-447E-AC82-43530168CDBD.jpeg

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                            • SteelBlueS
                              SteelBlueS
                              SteelBlue
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #398

                              jc43089 said:

                              Long extensions and maybe with a wobble extension as the last one.  Don't use a universal, too wobbly.

                              You used all the pieces from the kit including the throwout bearing?

                              I used a Sachs throw out bearing because I heard the supplied ones are trash.

                              KaiserRolls said:

                              This is what it took for me

                              also with that gripforce kit use an OEM pilot/TOB if you can. The ones in the kit are less than ideal. (I have removed ones sitting on my bench with like 3k miles and they’re shot) 

                              8433AD9F-6014-447E-AC82-43530168CDBD.jpeg

                              I think I bought a new tob and pilot bearing based on your recommendation. You didn’t even loosen your Motor mounts? How was reinstalling the trans?

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #399

                                SteelBlue said:

                                 You didn’t even loosen your Motor mounts? How was reinstalling the trans?

                                I did not, there was still some play though. I will probably loosen them up for reinstall, which I am going to try and tackle this weekend

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                                • suspencefulS
                                  suspencefulS
                                  suspenceful
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #400

                                  FYI - the two top transmission bolts on the 135i are the PITA to get to as well. Lee used a combo of extensions and a impact with some juice to get them off. Mitch's setup looks similar.

                                  You can see it during the timelapse part of my clutch install video.

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #401

                                    suspenceful said:

                                    Lee used some juice to get them off. 

                                    You can see it during my  video.

                                    Saucy

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                                    • SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlue
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #402

                                      Delaying the inevitable...

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                                      3.25 LSD is in. Replaced fluid and RTV green gasketd the casing. Need to replace the speed sensor as this ones teeth were broken on the inside. Not a terribly difficult job, maybe will do the stud conversion in the future to make things easier.

                                      Lighting brought to you courtesy of my new toy:

                                      EEB53121-910D-454B-A43E-FDACA45CCF03.jpeg

                                      I am all in on Milwaukee. Love the tools, battery system, and as lame as it sounds, their branding(kudos to the marketing department).

                                      Car will be heading to Legend Auto(hopefully tomorrow given trailer situations) to get the clutch issue worked out and the exhaust fabbed. I’m going to be gone all of next week and will be moving the following week, in addition to my doubts of being able to do the job itself, I am going to be leaving it to the professionals.

                                      Possibly this winter or maybe the following, I plan to do a complete rear end rebuild. Reinforced subframe, subframe and trailing arm bushings, wheel bearings, parking brakes, axles, and maybe a differential rebuild. New shop space is gonna be great to work on the car in the off-season.

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                                      • JdesignJ
                                        JdesignJ
                                        Jdesign
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #403

                                        SteelBlue said:

                                        EEB53121-910D-454B-A43E-FDACA45CCF03.jpeg

                                        I am all in on Milwaukee. Love the tools, battery system, and as lame as it sounds, their branding(kudos to the marketing department). DESIGN DEPARTMENT

                                        I know 95% of the design team there. 😁

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                                        👽BMW E30 325IC - Toyota 1JZ-GTE                                                     ⏰ HONDA EF9 CIVIC SI - JDM B18C5
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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          #404

                                          Jdesign said:

                                          I know 95% of the design team there. 😁

                                          Do you also know the guy that makes diamond racing steelies?

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