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E30 coilovers or spring/shocks

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  • KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRolls
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    ^ snap I believe they were 10k/12k

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    • AsparagusMikeA
      AsparagusMikeA
      AsparagusMike
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      #5

      Okay cool....I think I might as well get the coilovers cause I did want to lower the car slightly so that it looks better with 15 inch wheels. Speaking of wheels, what is your guys opinion on the team dynamics pro 1.2 wheels 15x7's? They seem to be really well made, look pretty good, and are reasonably priced.

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        Boris3
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        If still on stock parts with 118k anything you get will be an improvement. No surprise you're bouncing since stock dampers are shot if they've never been replaced.

        Combo choice depends on many things including your road conditions and how stiff a ride you like. Ride in other cars if you can since what feels good can be a personal choice.

        Sachs/Boge will be new stock, KYB as a cheap choice. Bilstein and Koni as much better step up. Koni are getting more love from some folks than Bilstein sport and/or HD for a street driven only car for less stiff of a ride on less than smooth roads.

        H&R OE sport, sport, race springs change ride hight and ride stiffness. Snap is right on the sport-race tradeoff. I noticed the same thing when the track e30 was still street driven.

        Also for anything but stock better get a skid plate for your car because an M42 oil pan already sits low and with any drop in ride height it's even more at risk.

        I've got Bilstein sports and H&R OE sports on the street driven only 91 318is. Feel every expansion joint.

        1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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        • straight6pwrS
          straight6pwrS
          straight6pwr
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          #7

          Boris3 said:

          Ride in other cars if you can since what feels good can be a personal choice.

          x1,000,000 if you can do this. you can make an educated guess, but its hard to say what you'd like if you've never experienced it.

          if you have the initial budget and ability to get your struts welded, go for the coilovers. it will make it cheaper/easier to tweak your preference down the line.

          Dan
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          • m42b32M
            m42b32M
            m42b32
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            Snap said:

            The difference in handling is significant with the Race springs and the ride quality penalty is minimal since the Sports always bottom out (too soft for how low they are).

            You should cut the internal bump stops a bit. Its pretty easy to do and it sounds like it helps a decent amount

            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=239380

            1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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              #9

              Choose an answer:

              A) it isnt a problem anymore now that I dont drive my car anymore.

              B) it isnt a problem anymore with h&r race springs.

              thanks for looking out for me

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              • m42b32M
                m42b32M
                m42b32
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                Snap said:

                Choose an answer:

                A) it isnt a problem anymore now that I dont drive my car anymore.

                B) it isnt a problem anymore with h&r race springs.

                thanks for looking out for me

                didn't read that well enough... option A should be corrected though

                1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                • AsparagusMikeA
                  AsparagusMikeA
                  AsparagusMike
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                  #11

                  if you have the initial budget and ability to get your struts welded, go for the coilovers. it will make it cheaper/easier to tweak your preference down the line. 

                  Yup I gotta a good friend that welds for a living so that won't be a problem.....I also just found out that the 91 318is has the 51mm strut housing, didn't know that. Also, for coilovers, what u guys think of the cx racing set? I read a couple other forums that they were a really good set for street use and hooligan activities, not so much for track though which is perfect! And a little cheaper then the bc racing ones.

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                  • AsparagusMikeA
                    AsparagusMikeA
                    AsparagusMike
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                    #12

                    Lol didn't tag that write, I'm such a tard

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                      AsparagusMike said:

                      I read a couple other forums that they were a really good set for street use and hooligan activities, not so much for track though which is perfect!

                      Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

                      Hooligan-rated parts are best parts.

                      you should send paypal right now

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                      • straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwr
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                        #14

                        i'm definitely a proponent of going with a kit that has a good reputation, so do your research on if the cxracing stuff is any good - i've never heard of it before.

                        Dan
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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
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                          #15

                          Isn't cxracing the same company that makes ebay turbo kits and things like that? If that's the case I wouldn't go that route for coilovers

                          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                          • straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            forgot to add, you're welcome to ride/drive/inspect my car if you want some baseline. i have BC coils, 6k/10k. the ride is.....direct? you feel everything, but it doesnt bother me in the least, i love it. your results may vary if you have a woman's opinion emanating from the passenger seat. the quality of the parts seems really good, we will see on longevity.

                            Dan
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                            • AsparagusMikeA
                              AsparagusMikeA
                              AsparagusMike
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                              #17

                              That wouldnt be such a bad idea, how did you chose what spring rates you wanted for the front and rear?

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                its closest to the ie3/h&r race spring rates, which is the best compromise in handling/comfort for me. anything softer doesn't handle great and anything stiffer is just masochistic on WI roads.

                                Dan
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                                • AsparagusMikeA
                                  AsparagusMikeA
                                  AsparagusMike
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                                  Straight6pwr, you live around or near the oshkosh area?

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                                    Daggerty
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                                    m42b32 said:

                                    Isn't cxracing the same company that makes ebay turbo kits and things like that? If that's the case I wouldn't go that route for coilovers 

                                    A good way to put it:

                                    If eBay was weed it would be the shitty stuff sold by the sketchy guy in the back alley

                                    Cxracing is the shitty stuff sold by someone not in a back alley, and puts it in baggies with their name on it.

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                                    • straight6pwrS
                                      straight6pwrS
                                      straight6pwr
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                                      #21

                                      AsparagusMike said:

                                      Straight6pwr, you live around or near the oshkosh area?

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                                      milwaukee.

                                      Dan
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                                      • AsparagusMikeA
                                        AsparagusMikeA
                                        AsparagusMike
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                                        #22

                                        Well when u say 6k/10k.....6k in the front and 10k in the rear? Or vise versa

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                                          Keep in mind that if you are selecting your own custom spring rates that the trailing arm creates a mechanical advantage that requires the rear springs to be extra stiff. If you choose a coil over that relocates the spring on top of the damper then that mechanical advantage is lost.

                                          I have seen E30 kits come with both styles of rear spring. Over the damper, and in the stock location with an adjustable collar.

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