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another failed n5x water pump: news at 11

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  • YoungCRY
    YoungCRY
    YoungCR
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    How'd it go on the track?

    Chris Young
    BMWCCA #458972
    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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    • B
      B
      B C
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      I welcome added complexity on a car if it improves reliability and extends the service life of something. This is not the case. 

      Beetles and Porsches were air cooled.  you will be fine.

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      • patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1
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        The new B58 engine for the 340i has a mechanical pump again as opposed to the electric water pumps on the N5x.  Hopefully these don't have exploding/disintegrating impellers...

        http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1133836

        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
        95 325is *sold*
        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

        BMWCCA #473306

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        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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        • i_love_carsI
          i_love_carsI
          i_love_cars
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          #5

          the track went well. I hadn't ever done a BMW CCA event before, and they definitely are a class act. They really treat the event as more of a driving school, with class time even for advanced drivers - obviously for them they are going over more intricate driving techniques. 

          They also had instructors for everyone in Intermediate and Novice groups. I was impressed that with 40-50 people they were able to get instructors for all of them. It was an impressively large event. Compared to more dedicated DE groups like LAPS, MVP, etc. focused on pure track time where they have like 10-12 instructors and it's a sign-up process where you either take one or don't, and there's a small pool of available people for it. 

          I learned that I will never drive Novice again. I was passing everyone, and my instructor had to give me a written rec to move into Intermediate. I'm at the point now where I need to be in run groups that are more spread out, don't form congo lines, and just generally have better drivers to surround myself with. 

          I wish I woulda had the money to do both days.

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          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
          2007 Z4MR 
          2003 E39 M5
          2002 E46 M3
          2021 X5 40i

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          • wally509W
            wally509W
            wally509
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            I have an '07 E92 328i with a little over 105K on it.  I've owned it for about 2 years and got fairly complete service records when I bought it.  No evidence there was ever a water pump done so that's been at the back of my mind ever since.  Did you do the job yourself or take it somewhere?  If you took it somewhere, may I ask what they hit you for to do it?

            Thanks,

            Wally

            "The more things change, the more they SUCK." -Butt-Head (Mike Judge)

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            • Bobdudeman1988B
              Bobdudeman1988B
              Bobdudeman1988
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              I had mine crap out on me just last month at 73k. The housing cracked so it worked.. Just leaked. The job isn't tooo bad on a rwd..but the xi is a pain. Ive charged 200 for rwd and 250 for awd. Again a good diyer can do it in a days work. I can swap it in about 2 hours. But ive done a few ;)

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
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                #8

                wally509 said:

                I have an '07 E92 328i with a little over 105K on it.  I've owned it for about 2 years and got fairly complete service records when I bought it.  No evidence there was ever a water pump done so that's been at the back of my mind ever since.  Did you do the job yourself or take it somewhere?  If you took it somewhere, may I ask what they hit you for to do it?

                Thanks,

                Wally

                He did the job himself.

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                BMWCCA #473306

                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                • i_love_carsI
                  i_love_carsI
                  i_love_cars
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                  #9

                  yeah IMO it's a DIY job for most mechanically inclined people, at least on n54/n55 cars. The suspension configuration allows you to just unbolt the sway bar bushings and pull it down and rotate out of the way. IMO it is also best to disconnect the fan shroud and lift it a few inches up (no need to fully remove it) - it will give you a TON more space to work with when lining up the E12 for the top water pump bolt. The first time I swapped one of these was on Pat's car and it took 3 hours on the floor. Not a huge job.

                  I can tell you that my old 135i was under CPO when its water pump failed at 63k so I naturally had BMW replace it and the work sheet read just shy of 1500 for parts and labor, if that helps give you any idea of dealer cost.

                  IMG6593.jpg

                  2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                  2007 Z4MR 
                  2003 E39 M5
                  2002 E46 M3
                  2021 X5 40i

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                  • Bobdudeman1988B
                    Bobdudeman1988B
                    Bobdudeman1988
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                    #10

                    The bolts on the pump are easy.but when you have the old aluminum t stat housing those hoses are pure evil to remove lol

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                    • i_love_carsI
                      i_love_carsI
                      i_love_cars
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                      dude, those hoses are a fucking rats nest. The first time I did this job I was in disbelief. The 2 supposed "quick release" hoses with the clips required a screwdriver tip to wedge and twist in order to pop them loose, they were ON. A couple of times I thought I had all hoses disconnected only to find another one. That's a couple of times too many   ;)

                      EDIT: Still better than doing the water pump/timing belt on my old V6 acuras. Never thought I'd say that but removing the electric water pump is way better than dealing with a belt driven pump on a J-series honda

                      IMG6593.jpg

                      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                      2007 Z4MR 
                      2003 E39 M5
                      2002 E46 M3
                      2021 X5 40i

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                      • wally509W
                        wally509W
                        wally509
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        i_love_cars said:

                        yeah IMO it's a DIY job for most mechanically inclined people, at least on n54/n55 cars. The suspension configuration allows you to just unbolt the sway bar bushings and pull it down and rotate out of the way. IMO it is also best to disconnect the fan shroud and lift it a few inches up (no need to fully remove it) - it will give you a TON more space to work with when lining up the E12 for the top water pump bolt. The first time I swapped one of these was on Pat's car and it took 3 hours on the floor. Not a huge job.

                        I can tell you that my old 135i was under CPO when its water pump failed at 63k so I naturally had BMW replace it and the work sheet read just shy of 1500 for parts and labor, if that helps give you any idea of dealer cost. 

                        Thanks for the tips.  Do most guys change the thermostat also?  If they aren't really prone to failure, not sure if I will mess with it.

                        "The more things change, the more they SUCK." -Butt-Head (Mike Judge)

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                        • patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          wally509 said:

                          Thanks for the tips.  Do most guys change the thermostat also?  If they aren't really prone to failure, not sure if I will mess with it.

                          It's a good idea since you have to pull the water pump to do the thermostat.  I have read that the pumps are prone to failure when they are removed if they are not stored properly, even for short periods of time.  I don't know how true that is but at about $400 a crack for water pumps i'd say it's worth it to do the thermostat as well.

                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                          95 325is *sold*
                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                          BMWCCA #473306

                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                          • i_love_carsI
                            i_love_carsI
                            i_love_cars
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                            #14

                            do the thermostat. I was able to get a full kit - thermostat, water pump, and a gallon of coolant for 459 shipped from OEMBimmerParts.com.  It shipped from Illinois too so it got here next day

                            IMG6593.jpg

                            2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                            2007 Z4MR 
                            2003 E39 M5
                            2002 E46 M3
                            2021 X5 40i

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                            • Bobdudeman1988B
                              Bobdudeman1988B
                              Bobdudeman1988
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                              #15

                              What brand pump did you go with? I got the continental brand with the mann bhear tstat

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                              • patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1
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                                Bobdudeman1988 said:

                                What brand pump did you go with? I got the continental brand with the mann bhear tstat

                                Mann bhear pigg?

                                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                95 325is *sold*
                                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                BMWCCA #473306

                                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                • R
                                  R
                                  reckedhim
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                                  #17

                                  I picked up a water pump and t-stat for $391 shipped from partsgeek.com.  I found a $15 off coupon to bring it down to that price.  Just in case anyone is interested...

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                                  • Bobdudeman1988B
                                    Bobdudeman1988B
                                    Bobdudeman1988
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                                    patsbimmer1 said:

                                    Mann bhear pigg?

                                    Im so serial right now..

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