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ClassE 1989 325IS Build Thread

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  • ClassEC
    ClassEC
    ClassE
    wrote on last edited by
    #492

    KaiserRolls said:

    What rebuild kit did you go with for the shifter?

    I wasn't really thinking when I ordered everything - I wanted to get the order in so parts could get shipping ASAP and should have done more research. I ended up going through and ordering all the original piece-parts to rebuild. Didn't do a short shifter or Delrin parts.

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
      wrote on last edited by
      #493

      Alright - could use some advice on what to do. I've been thinking through this drivetrain vibration issue and wondering if I screwed something up:

      When I pulled the rear subframe, I did the weld-in camber and toe adjusters AND the Condor subframe risers. Upon installation of both realized.... You can't really do both; raising the subframe pushes the newly welded in toe and camber adjusters into the underside of the car. In a rush to finish the car and get it road worthy - I flipped the subframe bushing upside down and installed (essentially lowering the subframe slightly?).

      When you install the subframe bushings - they also send some spacers to mount between the subframe and diff to space the diff down (to compensate for raising the diff and changing your driveline angle). Those spacers essentially lower the diff as well.

      I'm thinking I should remove those spacers between the diff and subframe?!? I think I essentially lowered the subframe AND the diff.. Which should have dropped my driveline angle quite a bit off from stock orientation.

      I have no idea how much "play" there is in driveline angles to know if this is totally fine - or if my lowering the rear threw off the angle and caused my driveline vibration (or prematurely killed the rear u-joint of my driveshaft?)

      I don't recall exactly when the driveline vibrations started - but 90% sure the vibration wasn't noticeable when I reinstalled the subframe. I remember feeling the vibration right after I installed the condor motor and trans mounts. I'm assuming the newly firm mounted tyranny made the vibration more noticeable?!?

      Side note: I'm doing all this work because I had a nasty driveline vibration above 2.5k-3k RPMs - which is why I'm replacing the giubo and CSB. Just trying to cover all scenarios to ensure I can get this fixed and enjoy the car again ASAP.

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      • EarlE
        EarlE
        Earl
        wrote on last edited by
        #494

        I would take out those spacers since the subframe isn't raised. They might not be the whole issue but they are still throwing off the driveline angle from what I am thinking.

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        • YoungCRY
          YoungCRY
          YoungCR
          wrote on last edited by
          #495

          I'd check the u joints to see if they move freely. Could the engine/trans mounts be stiff enough to cause you to feel more vibrations?

          Chris Young
          BMWCCA #458972
          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          • ClassEC
            ClassEC
            ClassE
            wrote on last edited by
            #496

            I'm thinking that's exactly the issue Chris. The vibrations were there before - but ancient OEM motor and trans mounts didn't transfer the feeling into the car. Once I went solid mounts - all those vibrations come to light.

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            • R
              R
              Rowleym
              wrote on last edited by
              #497

              Ill trade you a set of regular subframe bushings for those riser bushings. made from uhmw as well.

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              sk8 or die

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              • ClassEC
                ClassEC
                ClassE
                wrote on last edited by
                #498

                Rowleym said:

                Ill trade you a set of regular subframe bushings for those riser bushings. made from uhmw as well.

                I have zero intentions of dropping the subframe again soon unless something breaks and I need to remove it.

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                • andyhundleyA
                  andyhundleyA
                  andyhundley
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #499

                  ClassE said:

                  I decided last weekend I will be going with air next winter, roads are just too crappy to be low static.

                  Wheel bearing time - and giubo/CSB time!

                  CALLING DIBS ON THE CATUNED COILS!!!

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                  • ClassEC
                    ClassEC
                    ClassE
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #500

                    andyhundley said:

                    CALLING DIBS ON THE CATUNED COILS!!!

                    Noted.

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #501

                      Bolt on a 24v swap

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                      • B
                        B
                        B C
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #502

                        KaiserRolls said:

                        Bolt on a 24v swap

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                        Which one do I pick?

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                        • ClassEC
                          ClassEC
                          ClassE
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #503

                          "Bolt-On" ... Not ... "Swap"

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #504

                            Your subframe is lowered and your diff is lowered quite a bit. That is bad news bears for your U joints and driveline angle. 
                            Even the lowered subframe is not great
                            It's not a CV joint so it will throw some serious vibes if it is outside of its allowable range. 
                            I still have the back half of a good shaft if you need it.

                            ...

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                            • ClassEC
                              ClassEC
                              ClassE
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #505

                              GunMetalGrey said:

                              Your subframe is lowered and your diff is lowered quite a bit. That is bad news bears for your U joints and driveline angle.

                              Even the lowered subframe is not great

                              It's not a CV joint so it will throw some serious vibes if it is outside of its allowable range.

                              I still have the back half of a good shaft if you need it.

                              I think the current plan is to swap the CSB and Giubo onto the original driveshaft - and bring it in to be balanced. If it balances out good it'll go back in... If not - I'll have to address then.

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #506

                                If your U joints are shot you will still get some clunking back there, the joints shouldn't have any play.

                                ...

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                                • DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFootD
                                  DrLeadFoot
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #507

                                  No play and there shouldn't be a lot 'sticky' spots when you move the joint around.

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                                       @DrLeadFoot

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                                  • ClassEC
                                    ClassEC
                                    ClassE
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #508

                                    Once removed - I couldn't find any "slop" in the u-joint at all. Moved freely and didn't have sticky spots.

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                                    • DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFootD
                                      DrLeadFoot
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #509

                                      That's a good sign

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                                           @DrLeadFoot

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                                      • ClassEC
                                        ClassEC
                                        ClassE
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #510

                                        Didn't get as much done this morning as I had hoped - but overall got stuff done! New rear bearings are in, rear axles are in - gonna eat some lunch then reassemble rear brakes and move to radiator swap I think.

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                                        • EarlE
                                          EarlE
                                          Earl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #511

                                          Give er hell!

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