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ClassE 1989 325IS Build Thread

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  • ClassEC
    ClassEC
    ClassE
    wrote on last edited by
    #488

    Was pressed for time tonight so didn't get a lot done - however I got my power steering delete plate from Condor installed and started mocking up fan mounts for the radiator. Still got a TON to do before Scooters:

    -Install new rear bearings and re-assemble rear end.

    -Finish dropping forward portion of exhaust and heat shields, then yank driveshaft.

    -Drop shift linkage and rebuild, install Giubo/CSB/driveshaft/exhaust

    -Install and wire in new radiator with electric fan

    -Pray all this work will fix my driveshaft vibration.

    Gonna be some busy nights, if anyone is local and wants to sling wrenches LMK. Garage is warm and beer is always cold.

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
      wrote on last edited by
      #489

      Driveshaft is out, shifter assembly is out and torn apart being cleaned and rebuilt.... Tomorrow AM is gonna come EARLY.

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
        wrote on last edited by
        #490

        ClassE said:

        Driveshaft is out, shifter assembly is out and torn apart being cleaned and rebuilt.... Tomorrow AM is gonna come EARLY.

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        • B
          B
          B C
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          #491

          PowerTorque brand ftw

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          • ClassEC
            ClassEC
            ClassE
            wrote on last edited by
            #492

            KaiserRolls said:

            What rebuild kit did you go with for the shifter?

            I wasn't really thinking when I ordered everything - I wanted to get the order in so parts could get shipping ASAP and should have done more research. I ended up going through and ordering all the original piece-parts to rebuild. Didn't do a short shifter or Delrin parts.

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            • ClassEC
              ClassEC
              ClassE
              wrote on last edited by
              #493

              Alright - could use some advice on what to do. I've been thinking through this drivetrain vibration issue and wondering if I screwed something up:

              When I pulled the rear subframe, I did the weld-in camber and toe adjusters AND the Condor subframe risers. Upon installation of both realized.... You can't really do both; raising the subframe pushes the newly welded in toe and camber adjusters into the underside of the car. In a rush to finish the car and get it road worthy - I flipped the subframe bushing upside down and installed (essentially lowering the subframe slightly?).

              When you install the subframe bushings - they also send some spacers to mount between the subframe and diff to space the diff down (to compensate for raising the diff and changing your driveline angle). Those spacers essentially lower the diff as well.

              I'm thinking I should remove those spacers between the diff and subframe?!? I think I essentially lowered the subframe AND the diff.. Which should have dropped my driveline angle quite a bit off from stock orientation.

              I have no idea how much "play" there is in driveline angles to know if this is totally fine - or if my lowering the rear threw off the angle and caused my driveline vibration (or prematurely killed the rear u-joint of my driveshaft?)

              I don't recall exactly when the driveline vibrations started - but 90% sure the vibration wasn't noticeable when I reinstalled the subframe. I remember feeling the vibration right after I installed the condor motor and trans mounts. I'm assuming the newly firm mounted tyranny made the vibration more noticeable?!?

              Side note: I'm doing all this work because I had a nasty driveline vibration above 2.5k-3k RPMs - which is why I'm replacing the giubo and CSB. Just trying to cover all scenarios to ensure I can get this fixed and enjoy the car again ASAP.

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              • EarlE
                EarlE
                Earl
                wrote on last edited by
                #494

                I would take out those spacers since the subframe isn't raised. They might not be the whole issue but they are still throwing off the driveline angle from what I am thinking.

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                • YoungCRY
                  YoungCRY
                  YoungCR
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #495

                  I'd check the u joints to see if they move freely. Could the engine/trans mounts be stiff enough to cause you to feel more vibrations?

                  Chris Young
                  BMWCCA #458972
                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                  • ClassEC
                    ClassEC
                    ClassE
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #496

                    I'm thinking that's exactly the issue Chris. The vibrations were there before - but ancient OEM motor and trans mounts didn't transfer the feeling into the car. Once I went solid mounts - all those vibrations come to light.

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                    • R
                      R
                      Rowleym
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #497

                      Ill trade you a set of regular subframe bushings for those riser bushings. made from uhmw as well.

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                      sk8 or die

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                      • ClassEC
                        ClassEC
                        ClassE
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #498

                        Rowleym said:

                        Ill trade you a set of regular subframe bushings for those riser bushings. made from uhmw as well.

                        I have zero intentions of dropping the subframe again soon unless something breaks and I need to remove it.

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                        • andyhundleyA
                          andyhundleyA
                          andyhundley
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #499

                          ClassE said:

                          I decided last weekend I will be going with air next winter, roads are just too crappy to be low static.

                          Wheel bearing time - and giubo/CSB time!

                          CALLING DIBS ON THE CATUNED COILS!!!

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                          • ClassEC
                            ClassEC
                            ClassE
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #500

                            andyhundley said:

                            CALLING DIBS ON THE CATUNED COILS!!!

                            Noted.

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #501

                              Bolt on a 24v swap

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                              • B
                                B
                                B C
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #502

                                KaiserRolls said:

                                Bolt on a 24v swap

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                                Which one do I pick?

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                                • ClassEC
                                  ClassEC
                                  ClassE
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #503

                                  "Bolt-On" ... Not ... "Swap"

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #504

                                    Your subframe is lowered and your diff is lowered quite a bit. That is bad news bears for your U joints and driveline angle. 
                                    Even the lowered subframe is not great
                                    It's not a CV joint so it will throw some serious vibes if it is outside of its allowable range. 
                                    I still have the back half of a good shaft if you need it.

                                    ...

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                                    • ClassEC
                                      ClassEC
                                      ClassE
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #505

                                      GunMetalGrey said:

                                      Your subframe is lowered and your diff is lowered quite a bit. That is bad news bears for your U joints and driveline angle.

                                      Even the lowered subframe is not great

                                      It's not a CV joint so it will throw some serious vibes if it is outside of its allowable range.

                                      I still have the back half of a good shaft if you need it.

                                      I think the current plan is to swap the CSB and Giubo onto the original driveshaft - and bring it in to be balanced. If it balances out good it'll go back in... If not - I'll have to address then.

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #506

                                        If your U joints are shot you will still get some clunking back there, the joints shouldn't have any play.

                                        ...

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #507

                                          No play and there shouldn't be a lot 'sticky' spots when you move the joint around.

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                                               @DrLeadFoot

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