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1995 M3 S52 track drift car build

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    e36t-yost
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    ok so i tore the block down and i was looking at everything it looks pretty good, i have several questions 

    1 are mahle pistons stock for the s52?

    2 what do you guys recommend for piston rings for boosting it

    3 should i get new lowered bearings? (they have minimal scuffs that can see but can't feel. i feel like i should spend the dough to get the super good ones.

    4 is getting the crank micro polished and lightened worth the money,

    5 should i upgrade the valve train, (valves, springs, retainers) and also would it be smart to convert to solid lifters?

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
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      #13

      e36t-yost said:

      3 should i get new lowered bearings? (they have minimal scuffs that can see but can't feel. i feel like i should spend the dough to get the super good ones.

      Stancelife

      There is no such thing as "super good ones", coated ones are a waste of money and have no benefit, come to think of it I have only heard negatives lol.

      If you wanted to you could replace them with oem ones.

      A piston ring is pretty much a piston ring, there are no rings made for boost or NA

      I wouldn't mess with the crank, they have harmonic issues at high rpms as is, can't imagine lightening it would be better. 

      Solid lifters cost a lot and require grinding of shim caps to set lash.

      How high do you want it to rev? High RPM's is where it's harmonic issues will really start to shine, and you will need to purchase an aftermarket vibration damper (~$850)

      Food for thought.

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        e36t-yost
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        lower bearings*

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          CHRIS
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          Earl said:

          Wonder if it is Andys old car

          How many black E36 M3's has he had?

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
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            Two

            museum sig 2earl.jpg

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              e36t-yost
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              #17

              anyone know someone selling s52 cams and trays???? the guy i bought the car said he was going to get me some but thats if he remembers and when oh god i don't want to know so plzzzz it'd be a huge help

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
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                #18

                e36t-yost said:

                anyone know someone selling s52 cams and trays???? the guy i bought the car said he was going to get me some but thats if he remembers and when oh god i don't want to know so plzzzz it'd be a huge help

                I'm not sure if I missed something but what happened to the original cams?

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                • EarlE
                  EarlE
                  Earl
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                  Did you try removing them but didn't remove them properly, causing them to crack?

                  museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #20

                    That wouldn't be good. One thing that is on my list of ideas is making something similar to the factory tool that pushed down on the cam and tray evenly so you don't have to sit there for 2 hours trying to slowly tighten the damn things down.

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
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                      I did my intake cam without any trouble without special tools.  I turned it so only cylinder one had pressure on the valves and with someone holding the square with a crescent wrench so it wouldn't turn suddenly removed all of the other caps.  Then I released cylinder one a quarter turn at a time.  I don't know how close to the line I was though?  I removed my m50 intake cam and installed an m54b30 cam in it's place.

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        e36t-yost
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                        they weren't in the motor or the boxes of parts i assume he either kept them or lost them when he tore the motor apart or sold them way back when he took it apart because he was going to do a full build but never put it back together

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                          e36t-yost
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                          so here are finally some photos of the 95 m3 i got finally figured out the picture upload thing haha

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                          • jc43089J
                            jc43089J
                            jc43089
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                            #24

                            Valve cover in the front seat is a good sign ;) the body looks clean from the pics.

                            Sent from my potato phone

                            2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                            3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                            '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                            '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                            '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                            '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                            '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              e36t-yost
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                              #25

                              so i picked up some 328 cams for cheap with a whole motor that ate a couple valves to put in the m3 to get it running because m3 cams are just ridiculously expensive and the duration is slightly longer with the 328 cams with a  slightly shorter lift but i think i'll live with it once i get my tax return back, I'm ordering piston rings, new bearings, get the block hot tanked, and honed, and possibly port and polish the head. and probably coil overs on the suspension side of the project

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                              • jc43089J
                                jc43089J
                                jc43089
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                                #26

                                Interested for results. Probably going to cut power a lot.

                                Sent from my potato phone

                                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                  e36t-yost
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                                  #27

                                  Ik it will probably hurt power but I'm just going with it for now to get the motor together with the turbo and completely rebuilt. from what i've heard from some people is that the cams may help with the turbo setup with the slightly longer duration. but this is my first go round i want to get it together, and see how i like it and go from there

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                                  • wasnt m3W
                                    wasnt m3W
                                    wasnt m3
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                                    #28

                                    Don't waste your time with the 328 cams, do it right the first time. Stock s52 cams aren't that expensive. If the cost of them is that big of a deal, a turbo build is out of the question.

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      Don't waste your time or money on the m52 cams

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                        deek10sn
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                                        This turbo build is starting to sound like a pipe dream. I went full custom...best bet for is buy a used kit off bfc...start saving them nickles!!!

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                                          e36t-yost
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                                          meh not so much a pipe dream just saving up to buy what i need, i have a lead on a full AA turbo kit and am waiting on a response so thats where i stand right now, i've decided to stick with stock internals for this year and keep the power when done around 500 i think that'll be enough to mess with. I've been so busy with work its been hard to give the car any time but once i get the parts i'll make time for it

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