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    michael1972
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    Yea I figured. I went the cheaper route on those. The fronts feel pretty good tho.

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      michael1972
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      Another question. I am looking at shocks on ECS site and they show a rear powerflex bump stop. I didn't have rear bump stops on the stockers so I did not install rear bumpstops on the new stuff. WTF! Do I need these?

      http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E30-325e-M20_2.7L/Suspension/Shocks/ES2650407/

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        patsbimmer1
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        Yes you do.  It'll prevent your shocks from bottoming out and causing damage to the shock, mounts and body.

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          michael1972
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          So why were there none on the rear?

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            michael1972
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            Ok so here is where the bump stop issue is at. I called bavauto they say there is not a bump stop on the rear shocks on a e30. Looks like I need to get some new rear shocks. Anybody have any decent used ones laying around?

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            • EarlE
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              Earl
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              I'm going to be killed for this but 97 mustang gt shocks are stiffer than the KYB's and shorter than the Bilstein Sports. They're a good budget minded shock if you don't have the money for the Bilsteins. They're around $60 for a pair at the parts store and are a direct fit.

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                michael1972
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                Earl said:

                I'm going to be killed for this but 97 mustang gt shocks are stiffer than the KYB's and shorter than the Bilstein Sports. They're a good budget minded shock if you don't have the money for the Bilsteins. They're around $60 for a pair at the parts store and are a direct fit.

                Thanks Earl. I think I will throw some of those in and see how it rides. Am I looking for just stock replacement mustang gt shock?

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                  Rowleym
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                  Earl said:

                  I'm going to be killed for this but 97 mustang gt shocks are stiffer than the KYB's and shorter than the Bilstein Sports. They're a good budget minded shock if you don't have the money for the Bilsteins. They're around $60 for a pair at the parts store and are a direct fit.

                  What brand replacement would you get? You can get kyb's with adjustable dampening. NOt sure how much cost difference it is at that point though

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                    Boris3
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                    Take a look at real oem or bmwfans.info and you can find the parts schematics for your car. Useful sites.

                    Bilsteins have an internal bump stop so you wouldn't need to add one.

                    BAP was wrong about the e30. if you are using a shock w/o an internal bump stop you would need one on the fronts and rears.

                    Part number for rear: 33-52-1-125-078

                    What shocks were on on your car?

                    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                      michael1972
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                      No idea what shocks. Looked like oe BMW had a BMW sticker on them

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                        michael1972
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                        And how would I know if they did or did not have the internal stop? If they didn't why would they not come with a external bump stop?

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                          michael1972
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                          Well I called ECS who I got the KYB's from and the rears I have do have internal bump stops. Now my question for Earl would be, do the mustang shocks have the internal stops or will I need external stops to run them?

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                            michael1972
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                            Earl would these be what I would want to try?

                            http://m.advanceautoparts.com/mt/shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/monroe-sensa-trac-passenger-car-shock-absorber-5968/19710464-P?searchTerm=rear+shock

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                              Boris3
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                              A couple other things to think about. Did you replace the rear shock mounts? How did the rear towers look when you did the replacements (no tears in the metal)?

                              Did you put everything together correctly (esp the orientation of the cupped washers)?

                              http://www.turnermotorsport.com/pages/Instructions/rear_shock_assembly.pdf

                              1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                michael1972
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                                Well now you have me second guessing. But I took the stuff off the one and put it on the other same way.

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                                  michael1972
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                                  Was I supposed to reuse any of these parts? The KYB shock had a sleeve over the metal rod.

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                                    Boris3
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                                    That round rubber disk is your bump stop. The plastic sleeve will keep dirt and crap out of the shock and in the top of the sleeve is a metal cup washer open side down. See the Turner picture: which omits the bump stop and the sleeve.

                                    Now all that said if the rear end wasn't dancing around when you got it the issue is the shock and spring combination.

                                    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                      michael1972
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                                      Ok so I got to the bottom of the problem thanks to Boris. Here is what happened total installer error on my part. See pic number one. There was a small metal sleeve spacer on the original shocks see pic 2 that I put on the new shocks bad idea as you can see. Also I took the bottom washer off that came on the kyb shock see pic 3 and put it on the top. Result no bottom washer and the top washer stuck on top of the small spacer instead of on the mount. Took the spacer out and put the washer on the bottom and other washer on the top see last pic. Went for a long bumpy road drive and it is way better now. Thanks for the help guys.

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                                        michael1972
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                                        Oh yea and my gaskets are totally rotted away. I am ordering some of the rienforcement plates asap.

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                                        • EarlE
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                                          Earl
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                                          Just stock replacements. I am not sure of they have internal stops. At your height you would never bottom them out anyways 😃 They are Gabriel Ultra brand

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