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Turbo missing under load

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  • JeffJ
    JeffJ
    Jeff
    wrote on last edited by
    #17

    300lph fuel pump it's pretty consistent I have the m50 . I know my injectors are small but shouldn't miss and still have that much fuel.

    1976 530i e12
    1990 325ix e30
    1992 325i e36
    1995 740il e38
    2001 330xi e46
    ^More to come :)

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      lagwagon
      wrote on last edited by
      #18

      Wait, if I'm understanding this correctly - you are running the war chip and stock injectors with the miller maf? Are you using the M50 base tune and then tuning to the turbo?

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      • JeffJ
        JeffJ
        Jeff
        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        #24 injectors and using a 24 injector tune and changing it for the turbo stock maf. Need to Chang it

        1976 530i e12
        1990 325ix e30
        1992 325i e36
        1995 740il e38
        2001 330xi e46
        ^More to come :)

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        • B
          B
          B C
          wrote on last edited by
          #20

          24#ers are probably only going to support 8psi max before the duty cycle gets craycray. I bump 100% duty cycle at 12psi on 33#  injectors @43.5psi fuel pressure

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            lagwagon
            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            You are just going to pop that motor unless you get a proper tune in there. Get the miller maf ($300) and 60# siemens injectors ($220) and start with the base tune. It will probably solve all of your problems unless you have some underlying mechanical issues like the TPS

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            • JeffJ
              JeffJ
              Jeff
              wrote on last edited by
              #22

              We'll understanding that my injectors are tiny it has been like this for over a year now no popped motor yet.

              I do agree in need to upgrade the injectors at least.

              I did figure out my issue though I loaded the wrong file into the chip. Have to tweak the tune in higher rpm at wot but back to the normal afr'a of 10.5-11 untill 5k where it goes to 12.5-13

              1976 530i e12
              1990 325ix e30
              1992 325i e36
              1995 740il e38
              2001 330xi e46
              ^More to come :)

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                Rowleym
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                Snap said:

                24#ers are probably only going to support 8psi max before the duty cycle gets craycray. I bump 100% duty cycle at 12psi on 33#  injectors @43.5psi fuel pressure

                Snap said:

                24#ers are probably only going to support 8psi max before the duty cycle gets craycray. I bump 100% duty cycle at 12psi on 33#  injectors @43.5psi fuel pressure

                This. Im surprised you can even run lean with the injectors wide open and 10-12PSI. 

                You should just buy my ms3x and be done with this war chip nonsense :)

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                sk8 or die

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                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  I completely agree.

                  He is saving up for a bridgeport, 

                  something about a cordless drill welded to a tripod "isnt quite good enough"

                  snobs.

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                  • JeffJ
                    JeffJ
                    Jeff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    Lol damn right I may look and and see if I can find a used set of injectors ans long as I can get the tune for them

                    1976 530i e12
                    1990 325ix e30
                    1992 325i e36
                    1995 740il e38
                    2001 330xi e46
                    ^More to come :)

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      http://maksinjection.com/?product=bosch-0280-155-737-33-white

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                        lagwagon
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        I'm making over 500whp on the war chip reliably and the car runs great. Just get the proper setup and you'll be good.

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                        • DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFootD
                          DrLeadFoot
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #28

                          I needed to set my plug gap to .22 to stop the break up. I know nada about the tune world though.

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                               @DrLeadFoot

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            Did you ever find your turbo? In post #1 you stated that it was missing, I would like to think that the thieves returned it.

                            Please update!

                            ...

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                            • ClassEC
                              ClassEC
                              ClassE
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              ..and does the turbo just reappear when not under load? That must make some awesome noises with the manifold just dumping exhaust under load.

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                              • JeffJ
                                JeffJ
                                Jeff
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                GunMetalGrey said:

                                Did you ever find your turbo? In post #1 you stated that it was missing, I would like to think that the thieves returned it.

                                Please update!

                                Sadly I have not found it yet. It's like there's a worm hole that it goes to. Had the police department dust for prints and came up with nothing:(

                                1976 530i e12
                                1990 325ix e30
                                1992 325i e36
                                1995 740il e38
                                2001 330xi e46
                                ^More to come :)

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                                  B
                                  B C
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  Jeff said:

                                  Sadly I have not found it yet. It's like there's a worm hole that it goes to. Had the police department dust for prints and came up with nothing:(

                                  You may be able to locate it using the compressor map.

                                  In other news,I downloaded the WAR Chip software and loaded up the tune.

                                  (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻

                                  I quickly deleted all bits of the WAR Chip software off my computer after realizing that the values dont actually mean anything.

                                  They create tunes on the dyno to come up with the values in the the tables which is why running different injector sizes besides the ones they have tunes for is not suggested. I would conclude that the WAR chip is meant purely for extending the redline, and going +/- from the meaningless values they provide you to get things fine tuned via guess and check. 

                                  The ignition table isnt even in degrees BTDC.  Some of the values are in the 60's and 70's.

                                  Get some squirts.

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                                  • JeffJ
                                    JeffJ
                                    Jeff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #33

                                    I'll trade you the war chip for the mega squirts seeing as I know how much you love the war chip

                                    1976 530i e12
                                    1990 325ix e30
                                    1992 325i e36
                                    1995 740il e38
                                    2001 330xi e46
                                    ^More to come :)

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                                      Rowleym
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      Jeff said:

                                      I'll trade you the war chip for the mega squirts seeing as I know how much you love the war chip

                                      Would you be interested in a ms3x?

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                                      sk8 or die

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                                      • JeffJ
                                        JeffJ
                                        Jeff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #35

                                        Rowleym said:

                                        Would you be interested in a ms3x?

                                        I am but can send the money on it yet

                                        1976 530i e12
                                        1990 325ix e30
                                        1992 325i e36
                                        1995 740il e38
                                        2001 330xi e46
                                        ^More to come :)

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                                          B
                                          B C
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          Jeff said:

                                          I am but can send the money on it yet

                                          Great, what are you waiting for then

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