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  • wasnt m3W
    wasnt m3W
    wasnt m3
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    #41

    Ryan... said:

    I want another e30 :(

    You're a big boy. Go get one.

    m3sig-1.jpg

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
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      #42

      SteelBlue said:

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      Man, vintage shot right there, pre-surgery glasses and just a chin strap. 
      Wild shit

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      • GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGrey
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        #43

        Full tank of gas, I was standing next to it. Trunk tar in. 
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        My battery relocation to the rear requires a bit more work than initially thought. It's either an '84 thing or just early production, not sure. The rear battery tray area is narrower than a late model, so I will need a different battery. I also need to cut a hole for the battery cable grommet in the engine bay vs just punching out a blank plate.
        My weight bias isn't great (55% front) but it's not as bad as expected. 

        For ref, this is an 84 318i with full interior, full stereo in place, and a complete 6cyl e30 driveline and suspension components, with a 24v instead of the M20. I'm fairly impressed at the weight.

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          Boris3
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          #44

          Nice job on the weight! My e30 race car gutted and caged with the m20 is around the same. I could go lighter but need to make 2710 minimum with driver to be legal.

          1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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          • GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGrey
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            #45

            Boris3 said:

            Nice job on the weight! My e30 race car gutted and caged with the m20 is around the same. I could go lighter but need to make 2710 minimum with driver to be legal.

            The odd part is I've done nothing to reduce the weight! It's insane how light this car must've been when it rolled off the factory line sporting an m10 and an adorable drivetrain to match!

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            • HipMFH
              HipMFH
              HipMF
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              GunMetalGrey said:

              Increasing compression is only good for about 3% power gain over stock compression

              Not sure whether this is some kind of extreme generalization, or a valid piece of data from a non-relevant discussion...

              Ideal static compression ratio is heavily dependent on camshaft timing. Cam specs greatly affect VE across the rev range. When VE is decreased, there's less air getting in, but the final volume after compression is the same, so your "dynamic" CR will be lower. You need a higher static CR to get the the same amount of "dynamic" compression of the charge before ignition. Generally speaking, bigger cams require more compression, especially to restore torque that is lost in the low end/midrange which was lost because increased valve overlap results in a lower VE in those rev ranges..

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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
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                #47

                HipMF said:

                Not sure whether this is some kind of extreme generalization, or a valid piece of data from a non-relevant discussion...

                Ideal static compression ratio is heavily dependent on camshaft timing. Cam specs greatly affect VE across the rev range. When VE is decreased, there's less air getting in, but the final volume after compression is the same, so your "dynamic" CR will be lower. You need a higher static CR to get the the same amount of "dynamic" compression of the charge before ignition. Generally speaking, bigger cams require more compression, especially to restore torque that is lost in the low end/midrange which was lost because increased valve overlap results in a lower VE in those rev ranges..

                It is a generalization
                Static compression ratio does not depend of camshaft timing, as it is simply using the volume of combustion area at the two most extreme points of stroke. The effective compression ratio certainly changes when you get into cam profiles and variable timing and things of that sort, which is not something I've delved into, as the static ratio of this engine has never been accurately measured, therefore dynamic is also speculative.

                When looking at adiabatic compression of the otto cycle, ~1 point of compression increase yields around 2 to 4 percent increase in efficiency as a result of more heat being generated by the compression of air itself and intake temp being the same (ideally) instead relying on the combustible fuel source to provide that energy. As your delta T increases so does the area in the otto cycle which is the work output. 

                Anywho, doing any modification without supporting it is silly, but when people with stock M50's talk about just increasing compression and expecting to see large benefit it is worth noting that they will be spending a fair bit of money for little gain. 

                Positive manifold pressure is a wonderful thing in an engine is what it really all boils down to.

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
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                  #48

                  Man I'm good at buying vehicles that had things living in them. 
                  Noticed some yellow/orange chips near the sunroof crank, and had been getting a more present animal smell in the cabin. 
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                  Started pulling the headliner down around the doors and more foam was rolling out.
                  Lovely. 

                  Add taking the current headliner out and replacing it to the list of things to do.

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #49

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                    Headliner was cleaned out and tucked back away for a later date .

                    Cooling this engine had been sub optimal before, so I threw money at the problem. 
                    Stewart water pump, Z3m triple core, SPAL branded fan.

                    Clearances are tight, but man does this help keep temps in check!

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #50

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                      Oh, new wheels on. 595rs-rr's because RT660's were hella backordered. 225/45r15
                      Conclusion, lightweight, but 15's look meh in my opinion.

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                      • jc43089J
                        jc43089J
                        jc43089
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                        GunMetalGrey said:

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                        Oh, new wheels on. 595rs-rr's because RT660's were hella backordered. 225/45r15
                        Conclusion, lightweight, but 15's look meh in my opinion. 

                        Call me lame but the 15's look perfect.

                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          jc43089 said:

                          Call me lame but the 15's look perfect.

                          +1

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                            B C
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                            #53

                            jc43089 said:

                            Call me perfect but the 15's look lame.

                            Perfect

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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
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                              #54

                              I've been chasing down a tick from the rear of this engine for a bit now, and had some findings yesterday. 
                              The previous work I've done was removing the cams and opening and cleaning all the lifters, which didn't change anything. I then replaced lifters on cylinder 5 and 6, which did not change the noise. 
                              I tried heavier oil which helped reduce the noise a bit, but then was loud again, thin oil made it much worse. 

                              I am seeing metal in the oil so it was time to pull the pan and see what bearing I was losing. The piece upper right was from something else, but this is what was coming out of the back corner of the oil pan as I was pulling it. 
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                              I found the oil pump chain to be very slack, but intact. 
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                              I can't leave the chain that loose so I'll be pulling the engine seeing as I'm opening up a larger can of worms here than intended. 
                              I have not seen any glaring signs of bearing failure which is good (no discolored caps) but I have yet to pull any caps. That'll wait until the engine is on a stand. 

                              Fun with engines!

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
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                                Bearings from rear most main cap, that'll do it. 

                                Crank looks fine, bearings didn't spin. 
                                Will be taking the crank out and redoing all the bearings and verifying clearance along with replacing the oil pump chain.

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  #56

                                  I’m sure you already did, but check the oil pump

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    #57

                                    KaiserRolls said:

                                    I’m sure you already did, but check the oil pump

                                    In what capacity? 
                                    I have verified that the pump is still a pump, which is always nice!

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                                    • jc43089J
                                      jc43089J
                                      jc43089
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                                      GunMetalGrey said:

                                      In what capacity? 
                                      I have verified that the pump is still a pump, which is always nice! 

                                      Check the side clearance and inspect for anything that would cause lower output flow.  Also check the relief valve spring, I doubt that is the issue though because typical idling pressure is very low anyway.  Did you have an oil pressure gauge?

                                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                        Also check the lobes for wear. They can be purchased new

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          #60

                                          jc43089 said:

                                          Check the side clearance and inspect for anything that would cause lower output flow.  Also check the relief valve spring, I doubt that is the issue though because typical idling pressure is very low anyway.  Did you have an oil pressure gauge?

                                          It did for awhile, then it went missing right around when I got it. It's in my amazon cart haha. 

                                          I question if the horrid old clutch in there didn't help the situation any, as it would chatter like a mother.

                                          Previous dude also speculated that it was ticking shortly after assembly, but not as bad.

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