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  • HipMFH
    HipMFH
    HipMF
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    patsbimmer1 said:

    Looks good!  A little drive just helps persuade the rubber to fit, that's all.

    We call that "self-clearancing" where I come from.

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
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      New clamp for PS gets here Monday. One day late of the autox 😑

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
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        RT660s were great, drove pretty similar to an RE. Settled around 31 hot, which doesn’t mean much without using pyrometers but that’s where the car felt the best for me.

        one issue I did have which was super frustrating was when the car would be super gripped up in a corner, the inside tire would spin up a bit. Almost felt like an open diff. 

        the skid plate also slammed on some corners (better than the oil pan though) which is quite the shock mid corner. Shawano is quite the “roller coaster” though so I wouldn’t expect this to be normal behavior at 90% of the events we run. If it keeps happening I’ll raise the car and get it re-aligned. 
         

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
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          #268

          Video of my fastest run + results from morning/afternoon session.  rewatching, there are definitely areas I could’ve picked up time, but that’s the way it goes lol

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          cant get the YouTube vid to embed for whatever reason, probably because it’s unlisted(?)

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          • B
            B
            B C
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            #269

            You seem to be a great driver always finishing near the top, nicely done! 

            It sounds soo good 😍

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
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              #270

              B C said:

              It sounds soo good 😍

              I’m really happy with the BW 3” exhaust

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                Boris3
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                #271

                Bottoming out on the skid plate? Mine has saved me but that's skating over rumble strips and slamming onto the concrete gator teeth on track. What spring rates are you running and what's your ride height?

                1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRolls
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                  Boris3 said:

                  Bottoming out on the skid plate? Mine has saved me but that's skating over rumble strips and slamming onto the concrete gator teeth on track. What spring rates are you running and what's your ride height?

                  You can hear it in the video around 57/58 seconds. 8k/10k rates (450ish/570ish lbs)

                  here’s the ride height. As I mentioned it really only happens on the abrupt elevation changes at Shawano. Also I’m just assuming it’s the skid plate as nothing else is that low and I have no evidence of tires rubbing on anything or exhaust hitting 

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                    Boris3
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                    #273

                    Hmm, not low at all. Those must be some wild elevation changes.  Maybe it's the picture or my eyes that makes your front negative camber look pretty intense.  

                    Get underneath the car and take a look for scrapes. My skidplate looks like an angry tiger went after it with claw gouges in the sheet metal. I'm at 525/700.

                    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      Boris3 said:

                      Hmm, not low at all. Those must be some wild elevation changes.  Maybe it's the picture or my eyes that makes your front negative camber look pretty intense.  

                      Get underneath the car and take a look for scrapes. My skidplate looks like an angry tiger went after it with claw gouges in the sheet metal. I'm at 525/700.  

                      It’s the stupid iPhone picture. I’m like -2.9° in the front 

                      Planned on checking the plate out, it already has a bunch of scrapes so it might be hard to discern which are Shawano related haha

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #275

                        Man, you've always had the best sounding E30's.
                        New wheels look great!

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                        • YoungCRY
                          YoungCRY
                          YoungCR
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                          KaiserRolls said:

                          l cant get the YouTube vid to embed for whatever reason, probably because it’s unlisted(?)

                          Fixed, I adjusted the embedded content width to 800px from 500px. Youtube was requesting 560px haha. Car sounds great! I should really come up to Shawano and watch being its 40 min away.

                          Chris Young
                          BMWCCA #458972
                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #277

                            YoungCR said:

                            Fixed, I adjusted the embedded content width to 800px from 500px. Youtube was requesting 560px haha. Car sounds great! I should really come up to Shawano and watch being its 40 min away.

                            Thanks Chris! Once they start allowing spectators/ride alongs I think it would be worth it.

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #278

                              Well, measured the breakaway torque of the diff over my lunch...ended up ordering a 3 clutch setup from Thayer Motorsport and everything I need to replace the leaky input shaft seal. Should be a fun project

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                                Boris3
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                                #279

                                What was the breakaway #?

                                1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  Boris3 said:

                                  What was the breakaway #?

                                  40ish on a cold diff. I noticed throughout each run it would slip more and more. Based on what I could find on metric mechanic for a 2 clutch diff w/45° ramp angle in good shape It should be around 58ftlbs.

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                                  Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

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                                  • HipMFH
                                    HipMFH
                                    HipMF
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                                    KaiserRolls said:

                                    40ish on a cold diff. I noticed throughout each run it would slip more and more. Based on what I could find on metric mechanic for a 2 clutch diff w/45° ramp angle in good shape It should be around 58ftlbs.

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                                    Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

                                    Science!

                                    I wonder why the MM units have a lower breakaway torque though?

                                    I've had this happen a couple times, but I just figured it was just a compromise with F/R handling bias. You could get more weight on the inside rear by removing the rear sway bar, but yeah, no thanks.

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
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                                      #282

                                      HipMF said:

                                      Science!

                                      I wonder why the MM units have a lower breakaway torque though?

                                      I've had this happen a couple times, but I just figured it was just a compromise with F/R handling bias. You could get more weight on the inside rear by removing the rear sway bar, but yeah, no thanks.

                                      Ramp angle & less initial lockup is my guess

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                                        Boris3
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                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

                                        Yep that's why I asked. I was curious.

                                        Per the latest rule set: test "at the center hub nut, using a 30mm or 32mm socket and commercially available ½” torque wrench. The car will be placed on solid pavement, the right side of the car will be jacked up until the right rear tire is free from the pavement, the transmission will be placed in neutral, and the parking brake, if present, will be released. The torque wrench will be placed at the nine o’clock position with the socket on the center nut. The torque wrench will be set at 65 lb.-ft. and pushed down.If the differential does not breakaway prior to the torque wrench “breaking away,” a second and similar style torque wrench from an impartial party shall be used in a second test, immediately following the first test. If the differential does not breakaway using the second torque wrench, the car will be disqualified from the preceding race and the DQ will be noted in the car’s logbook."

                                        I replaced my original after a wreck in 2014 with a used 3.73 only to find that it tested at 44ftlbs. Not good. My current one is a used Korman-built 3.73 that tests at 65ftlb. Much better.

                                        1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRolls
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                                          #284

                                          Boris3 said:

                                          Yep that's why I asked. I was curious.

                                          Per the latest rule set: test "at the center hub nut, using a 30mm or 32mm socket and commercially available ½” torque wrench. The car will be placed on solid pavement, the right side of the car will be jacked up until the right rear tire is free from the pavement, the transmission will be placed in neutral, and the parking brake, if present, will be released. The torque wrench will be placed at the nine o’clock position with the socket on the center nut. The torque wrench will be set at 65 lb.-ft. and pushed down.If the differential does not breakaway prior to the torque wrench “breaking away,” a second and similar style torque wrench from an impartial party shall be used in a second test, immediately following the first test. If the differential does not breakaway using the second torque wrench, the car will be disqualified from the preceding race and the DQ will be noted in the car’s logbook."

                                          I replaced my original after a wreck in 2014 with a used 3.73 only to find that it tested at 44ftlbs. Not good. My current one is a used Korman-built 3.73 that tests at 65ftlb. Much better.  

                                          Phew, glad I tested it correctly lol. 
                                          also glad to hear you could feel how sloppy it was around 40ish, confirms my suspicions.

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